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Poll Results: Vista Like or Dislike

 
  • 15% (77)
    Dislike Vista
  • 78% (388)
    I like Vista
  • 6% (30)
    Not used Vista before
495 Total Votes  
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I find Vista's caching/prefetch to be over trumped. I did not see a major speed/responsiveness increase over XP with it.

As for the argument that unused ram is wasted ram and that all that ram Vista is using is for a great purpose, well my Vista install took around 15GB of hardrive space, my XP install took around 300MB. Vista is fifty times the size of XP, no wonder it needs more ram to feel responsive.

I'm sure DX 10+ will be a must have at some point in the not too distant future, but not before my OC'ed 8800GTS G92 is being sold for scrap.

Security updates and support are nice, but I haven't found them to be of critical value, and basic security updates will continue for xp for a good while.

GUI is largely irrelivant to me, and can be replaced if I care to do so.

Anyway, my biggest complaint with microsoft products is one that becomes more pronounced with every new OS: bloat and the inability to easily remove it.

Windows Media Player? I don't want it on my system.
Internet Explorer? I dont want that either.
Internet connection sharing? Want it even less.
Microsoft Firewall? No.
and so on...

I know there are still vestiges of these programs on my system. I don't see them, but I know they are there and it offends me to no small degree. All of this microsoft garbage screwing up my otherwise immaculate system. I have about all I can handle in this 300MB OS, and I don't think I can take another 14.7GB of it for any extended period of time. The profound moral outrage will implode my psyche.

I've seriosuly considered paying someone upwards of $5,000 to build me an embedded version of Windows that has nothing I do not absolutly need. It would almost be worth it.

Or maybe I'll just sell my main system and play dos games on my K6-II. Certainly has better RPGs than anything thats come out for PC in the last 3-4 years.

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And we all know that XP > Win98SE...
I prefered 98SE over XP till XP was 3 years old.
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Man I love VIsta x64. I never turned back after XP. I wonder how many people responded to this poll with even using Vista?
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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post
DX10, prefetch, and a [b]whole host of security upgrades[b]. The eye candy is nice as well.

Security updates that require entire changes to the kernel, things that would break a whole host of XP programs (you may have noticed that not all XP compatible programs work in Vista).
Ok, I'll go for that. I'd consider DX and prefetching and eye candy novelty (not worth the cost alone), but the security is a good point.

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Originally Posted by TriplePlay View Post
How is manufacturer support NOT significant? Updates and patches are not significant? Releasing updates to keep something up to date and safe from exploits?

And it's NOT $250. Even YOU posted Vista ULTIMATE (The most expensive one that few people have any reason to purchase, as Home Premium has more features than 99.5% of people will ever need) was only $207.99, that's saving about $50 and that's a very nice dinner or a PC game

Vista is $130 (for Home Premium) as far as everyone is concerned because the only reason anyone gets Ultimate is for their e-peen and the pretty black box.
Fair, but I don't think these home editions should dictate the "cost of vista." Because obviously they aren't the full versions, but then again most people aren't going to buy the full version (this is m$'s fault for this version stupidity, of course).

Good point.

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Not for long when DX10 will become the norm for gaming, then it will not work 100% and with 100% compatibility, whereas Vista can run any application in compatibility mode with 3 clicks and run anything that worked in XP (even though that most things work perfectly with it anyways).
Uh...

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Originally Posted by me
As of today... What is so good about vista that a person running windows XP should spend money on windows vista?
Check back with me when DX10 finally becomes the norm. I set a specific time frame for my argument.

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Originally Posted by TriplePlay View Post
I'd tell them that soon Microsoft will no longer support XP and will cease to release updates for it, like I said above which was overlooked.
Fair enough, but let's not overuse this here!

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Nope, Ultimate has no point for any normal user. 99.5% of all PC users have NO need for the bonuses offered by Ultimate that cannot be offered by Home Premium.
Ok, fair point. But like I said, we shouldn't be basing the price off of a version that doesn't have everything, nor should we base the price off of a version (though full) that most people aren't going to be using. Again, m$'s fault.

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Trust me, there's nothing "crippled" about it...
I, and most of my fellow engineering students, use remote desktop a lot. The crippled (yes, crippled) home "premium" does not offer this feature. The business "version" does, but then I miss out on the media stuff. You see the problem now? They want to put people like me in a struggle and have them end up paying the higher price for vista ultimate (XP Pro was $300; vista ultimate is $400). If you think m$ introduced these "versions" to save you money, then m$ either has you by the balls, or you need to take off your blinders.

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Originally Posted by DigitalPhreak View Post
If you got XP and dont want to pay to upgrade then fine. They spent 7+ years in R&D at Microsoft to bring us a pretty XP so dont bother. <-- That is just plain illogical thinking.
I don't know what to say... I don't think I can discuss this with you further.

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Originally Posted by DigitalPhreak View Post
Please dont say it again... As even you could only name one reason to upgrade to XP from 98SE.
Exactly.



My point exactly.

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Originally Posted by binormalkilla View Post
Man I love VIsta x64. I never turned back after XP. I wonder how many people responded to this poll with even using Vista?
Without*, perhaps?
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It's kinda nice to see the vista crowd get all into this for once, usually it's the xp people who say bla bla bla, vista sucks and now it is kinda turning around.

my list:
Bitlocker
Auto-defrag
better diagnostic
--disk (will actively check for disk failure)
--application
much faster sleep/resume
better parental controls
built in backup controls
better system restore
super fetch/ready boost
better windows update

along with the networking stack mentioned earlier

i'm in that ultimate category because i want media center and the advanced networking stack. and why does the business version not have bit locker!!!!! you'd think the version tailored to businesses would have all the security features in it!

P.S. the only reason i do have vista is because of the MSDNAA, otherwise i would be running XP. ahh the joys of being a poor college student
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I think its safe to say vista has turned itself around and is becoming mainstream.
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Vista...
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Windows Media Player? I don't want it on my system.
Internet Explorer? I dont want that either.
Internet connection sharing? Want it even less.
Microsoft Firewall? No.
and so on...
And if it didnt come with all of those things standard you would complain that it didnt have of the most basic of functionality that any decent OS should have. Dont like them? Simple, dont use them. Use something else. Oh wait... you are going to complain of the whole 500mb to a gig of space that it is occupying. As if disk space is at a premium these days. Storage is at its cheapest ever.
    
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I love vista, except when it craps on me.
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I, and most of my fellow engineering students, use remote desktop a lot. The crippled (yes, crippled) home "premium" does not offer this feature. The business "version" does, but then I miss out on the media stuff. You see the problem now? They want to put people like me in a struggle and have them end up paying the higher price for vista ultimate (XP Pro was $300; vista ultimate is $400). If you think m$ introduced these "versions" to save you money, then m$ either has you by the balls, or you need to take off your blinders.
There are a whole host of programs to supplement.



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Exactly.



My point exactly.
You missed my point...

Its been a good debate though. Good sport.

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Originally Posted by h4rdcor3 View Post
It's kinda nice to see the vista crowd get all into this for once, usually it's the xp people who say bla bla bla, vista sucks and now it is kinda turning around.

my list:
Bitlocker
Auto-defrag
better diagnostic
--disk (will actively check for disk failure)
--application
much faster sleep/resume
better parental controls
built in backup controls
better system restore
super fetch/ready boost
better windows update

along with the networking stack mentioned earlier

i'm in that ultimate category because i want media center and the advanced networking stack. and why does the business version not have bit locker!!!!! you'd think the version tailored to businesses would have all the security features in it!

P.S. the only reason i do have vista is because of the MSDNAA, otherwise i would be running XP. ahh the joys of being a poor college student
Nice one and yes the business version has bitlocker... the enterprise version. LOL There goes microsoft and their silly versioning caveats! haha
    
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