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Poll Results: Vista Like or Dislike

 
  • 15% (77)
    Dislike Vista
  • 78% (388)
    I like Vista
  • 6% (30)
    Not used Vista before
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post #211 of 264
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Originally Posted by lordikon View Post
Didn't recognize my ethernet card, which meant no internet until I restarted back into windows. Got back into windows, and after a few hours of research found that noone had a freaking clue about how to fix it. Oddly enough the maker of the ethernet card didn't have Linux drivers for the card.
The reason "noone had afreaking clue how to fix it" is because no one has ever heard of ethernet not being automatically detected, configured, and working right away

I dunno what happened to you but ethernet is always working without having to fetch drivers (windows doesn't even do that).

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I did finally stumble upon a driver I hoped would work, and because I didn't have internet I figured I'd just put the drivers on my flash drive. I knew Linux accepted usb flash drives. Well, it is supposed to at least. Turns out it wouldn't recognize that I even had put a flash drive in.
You have to know how to access it, obviously... If you were in a terminal, did you expect a window to pop up and say, "USB device detected. Do you want to open videos with windows media player or view files in a folder?"

If you were using a GUI... The yet another very strange case.

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And therein lies the problem with Linux. Someone who has been using computers for 20 years (since they were 5), and can run a commodore64, any version of dos, windows, and mac, but cannot seem to grasp how to get Linux to cooperate.
Have you ever used Linux (as your main OS) before? If not, that's like saying, "I've spoken English for all my life, and I tried Japanese for a day and couldn't get it. Man, what is Japanese's problem?"

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EDIT: I also remember having a huge pain trying to get Linux to setup a partition on my drive. I actually ended up having to do it manually with PartitionMagic.
Again, very easy, even with a terminal-only environment... 3 rare problems all in one experience? I find that especially strange. Almost hard to believe.

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Originally Posted by tr8rjohnk View Post
This seems to be the only thing that bothers you (from what I read). You can actually attach a ready-boost usb flash drive and superfetch would become an asset.
readyboost = fail... I dedicated 2GB to it for a month, and there was no difference. This is between two computers.

Sounded like a great concept in theory, but my experience told me otherwise.

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Thats because all the Vista bashers are people who have never had real experience with it
Yep. ALL people who bash vista have never used it. There is no such thing as a person who has used vista and genuinely decided he or she did not like it. Everyone who uses vista likes it. Everyone in the world.
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Originally Posted by The Hundred Gunner View Post
The reason "noone had afreaking clue how to fix it" is because no one has ever heard of ethernet not being automatically detected, configured, and working right away

I dunno what happened to you but ethernet is always working without having to fetch drivers (windows doesn't even do that).



You have to know how to access it, obviously... If you were in a terminal, did you expect a window to pop up and say, "USB device detected. Do you want to open videos with windows media player or view files in a folder?"

If you were using a GUI... The yet another very strange case.



Have you ever used Linux (as your main OS) before? If not, that's like saying, "I've spoken English for all my life, and I tried Japanese for a day and couldn't get it. Man, what is Japanese's problem?"



Again, very easy, even with a terminal-only environment... 3 rare problems all in one experience? I find that especially strange. Almost hard to believe.



readyboost = fail... I dedicated 2GB to it for a month, and there was no difference. This is between two computers.

Sounded like a great concept in theory, but my experience told me otherwise.



Yep. ALL people who bash vista have never used it. There is no such thing as a person who has used vista and genuinely decided he or she did not like it. Everyone who uses vista likes it. Everyone in the world.
I've taken Linux classes, programmed in Linux, and had working networking and flash drives in Linux on other machines.

The english to japanese thing doesn't fly in my book. An OS should be both powerful and user-friendly. If "english" in your example is user-friendly, then "japanese" is not, then I choose English. I never needed to take a class, or read a book on how to use Windows, or even DOS, why should Linux be any different?
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post #213 of 264
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The english to japanese thing doesn't fly in my book. An OS should be both powerful and user-friendly. If "english" in your example is user-friendly, then "japanese" is not, then I choose English. I never needed to take a class, or read a book on how to use Windows, or even DOS, why should Linux be any different?
Because it absolutely is different... You're suffering from the #1 common problem: expecting Linux to be windows. It IS different. It isn't legitimate to say, "I've used windows for 20 years, hopped on Linux, and didn't understand anything."

In the language analogy, I was implying that they were different, not that one is easier than the other. Linux certainly is harder than windows; it's not the same thing. It is primarily targeted toward the enthusiast crowd, not most everybody (although many distros like Ubuntu, Suse, etc are trying to change that.)

What distro did you use that gave you such a headache, btw?
post #214 of 264
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not true..I've had two computers with vista pre-installed on it. The first one I tried to use for 2 months then I couldn't take it anymore and formatted it to xp, and the second I didn't even bother, reformatted it to xp as soon as I opened the box.
You couldn't take it anymore because you were using a pre-built.
post #215 of 264
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Because it absolutely is different... You're suffering from the #1 common problem: expecting Linux to be windows. It IS different. It isn't legitimate to say, "I've used windows for 20 years, hopped on Linux, and didn't understand anything."

In the language analogy, I was implying that they were different, not that one is easier than the other. Linux certainly is harder than windows; it's not the same thing. It is primarily targeted toward the enthusiast crowd, not most everybody (although many distros like Ubuntu, Suse, etc are trying to change that.)

What distro did you use that gave you such a headache, btw?
This was a couple of years ago. I believe it was the newest Fedora at the time, 5 or 6 possibly.

Do I expect Linux to act like Windows? Yes. If Linux would like people to begin using it more that would probably be a good step towards success. Back to the language analogy....do you expect most English speaking people to learn Japanese? Not without a damn good reason. But I'd be more than willing to learn a language that had numerous benefits and was very similar to English, so easy to learn.

There need to be a huge amount of benefits to make an OS switch to begin with, and any large learning curve deterants, coupled with lack of support aren't going to help.
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post #216 of 264
I have a legit vista key but I uninstalled it

Too many of the programs I use aren't compatible with vista or it always wants me to "run as admin" just annoying stuff

But I'll probably dual boot again tomorrow
post #217 of 264
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Originally Posted by CravinR1 View Post
I have a legit vista key but I uninstalled it

Too many of the programs I use aren't compatible with vista or it always wants me to "run as admin" just annoying stuff

But I'll probably dual boot again tomorrow
You can make yourself the supreme admin by going to the command prompt and typing in Net adminstrator "username" activate:yes
post #218 of 264
I used vista on my mothers computer. Im not gonna bash it. Kinda annoying the popus for changing things like the deskltop background or screensavers. Although im sure they can be turned off or whatever. I just never had a reason and still do not have a reason to switch from Xp . I do not believe i will gain anything from it. Maybe a Headache. Xp runs every program i need to run. If i was to go out of my way buy vista. I will more than likely have problems . Actually im sure i will because a program i use needs Active sync supposedly there is no active sync in vista. If i can already think of a cmpatability issue then its definitely a bad sign.

How is everything with vista and drivers. Is it almost impossible to have an issue like unsupported devices and not being able to find drivers?
    
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I like Vista a lot more than I was expecting.
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When it first came out I didn't care much for it.

But I recently installed Vista x64 Business SP1 and its "feels" alot faster than XP and better looking. I've not installed any games yet.

I may just keep it this time, so far my first problem has been with Intel TAT
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