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I'm giving up on overclocking...someone talk me out of it...

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I got burned. I'll admit it.
I bought great components....I skimped nowhere with OC in mind (see sig for component list)
I got a bum chip E6320 would only OC from 1.89 to 2.8 with 24/7 stability.
I ran this way for months.
My system decided not to POST one day (about 4 months later)
Long story short, my ASUS P5K vanilla MB is a POS. It doesn't like fast RAM and it is not uncommon for it to not POST (RMA'd only to find the only fix is to remove RAM, replace with slow AKA lower voltage RAM and POST, then swap back- I've had to do this NUMEROUS times to bring it back from the grave). Now the POS is not remembering FSB settings. (BIOS says FSB is 400MHz, but when it boots, it runs it at 266 WTH?). I flashed to latest BIOS and now the machine will not reliably wake up from S3 standby.

My conclusions...
Overclocking is filled with uncertainty. Uncertainty of proper function. Even though I burned my system in and settled on 2.8GHz and 1000MHz RAM as stable in ORTHOS and MEMTEST and OCCT, my system doesn't always POST or wake-up from S3 standby. It's the "devils in the details" in full force. My ASUS motherboard can't be FULLY reliable if it's overclocked (by the way ASUS tech support will confirm this, as they told me they don't support overclocking! And when I reported my issue, they said try it without overclocking and if it works then too bad because they don't support overclocking). So, in conclusion, unless you are prepared to spend lots of time testing, burning in, and tweaking things.....and even then, it may still not work 100% correctly, then OC is not for you.

I realize I've probably just got a bad motherboard, but I have RMA'd the thing once and it still doesn't work right. If I replace the MB, then I have to disassemble the whole system and rebuild it, reinstall the OS, reinstall all my apps (I've got LOTS), reinstall all my devices and drivers, and then re-start all my testing, tweaking to find out the new BIOS settings to get my 2.8GHz back....I just don't think I've got the time to do all this and still maybe have trouble!!!!
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post #2 of 31
Get a DS3L, and you'll do a lot better next time!
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(by the way ASUS tech support will confirm this, as they told me they don't support overclocking! And when I reported my issue, they said try it without overclocking and if it works then too bad because they don't support overclocking).
SO ur giving up cause an asus tech called you out? i bet u crawled under the table while you spoke to this tech.

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So, in conclusion, unless you are prepared to spend lots of time testing, burning in, and tweaking things.....and even then, it may still not work 100% correctly, then OC is not for you
do you know what the diff between a hobby and job is?

1.hobby's you dump tons of $$$$$ and see nothing or some kind of nothing in return yet it was the best time of ur life

2.job-a job pays you to do ,what ur good at and it feeds the hobby and yet why do we complain when were doing our jobs,cause it's not as fun as the hobby that doesn't earn $$$ but takes from it

overclocking is my hobby what's urs
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If you could swap it for a somewhat older P5B Deluxe it would work wonders with that chip, I ran it up to 532FSB rock stable

Either way, the P5K isn't the best P35 overclocking board. The DFI Blood Iron is pretty nice if you can get it. Are you willing to get a new mobo or not
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Originally Posted by Acoma_Andy View Post
Are you willing to get a new mobo or not
Maybe.
Right now, I think I've built the case of why going down that road is unattractive...it seems it will require a lot of work to replace the MB and at the end of it all I'm NOT guaranteed that I'll be better off. I need my system to be stable and to POST and go into S3 and wake up from S3 without incident. Appearently this was too tall of an order for ASUS. The vibe I get from the people on these OC boards is I'm a wimp for asking about girly-man features like S3 and forget standby go for 4GHz! When I built my system, 2.66 cost $1000 from Intel, so the 1.89 overclocked to 2.8 seemed smart. With all the trouble I've had and with the E8400 costing me a net price of about $125 (I should be able to flip my E6320 for about $70-$100), I'm thinking my best solution is to drop in an E8400 and run everything stock. I'd love to investigate a new motherboard, but I don't think I've got the time and energy if it didn't work out.

Someone asked my hobby...I'm a father of 3 young kids (1,4,7 years old), so most of my free time is with them, not trying to fix a POS ASUS motherboard. If I had gone with Gigabyte things might be different...then again, with my luck, maybe they'd have been the same!
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I had those problems and then a DS3L came to me.
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post #7 of 31
dont give up dude, fight the power. Grab urself a abit ip 35 e, there cheap, reliable , actually any of the boards mentioned here are great. Plus, 2.8 ghz isnt a bad overclock. I had a similar board to urs, umm forget which lol but i only got to 2.8. If you enjoy it do it , if not ,, move on and build model airplanes or something
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Maybe.
Right now, I think I've built the case of why going down that road is unattractive...it seems it will require a lot of work to replace the MB and at the end of it all I'm NOT guaranteed that I'll be better off. I need my system to be stable and to POST and go into S3 and wake up from S3 without incident. Appearently this was too tall of an order for ASUS. The vibe I get from the people on these OC boards is I'm a wimp for asking about girly-man features like S3 and forget standby go for 4GHz! When I built my system, 2.66 cost $1000 from Intel, so the 1.89 overclocked to 2.8 seemed smart. With all the trouble I've had and with the E8400 costing me a net price of about $125 (I should be able to flip my E6320 for about $70-$100), I'm thinking my best solution is to drop in an E8400 and run everything stock. I'd love to investigate a new motherboard, but I don't think I've got the time and energy if it didn't work out.

Someone asked my hobby...I'm a father of 3 young kids (1,4,7 years old), so most of my free time is with them, not trying to fix a POS ASUS motherboard. If I had gone with Gigabyte things might be different...then again, with my luck, maybe they'd have been the same!
An E8400 isn't a bad idea if you're done with fiddling... however I'd still suggest a motherboard replacement, as it sounds like the one you've got has problems! I'm not sure about the P5K's compatibility with the 45nm CPU's though, so make sure you have any BIOS updates you need, etc before making the switch.
post #9 of 31
I find that fun.

Not stable? Make it stable. Parts not mixing well? Get new ones and MAKE them mix well. Sure its expensive but who said overclocking was a cheap hobby?

So you got a bum board or a bum chip, sucks man but thats how overclocking goes. Get back on your horse, RMA the board or sell if it is in working condition, get a 45nm and get clockin!

NEVER GIVE UP!
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i like to use less expensive parts and oc them as good as i can go with mostly stock parts

i dont liek voltage increases either ><
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