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q6600, help for a semi-noob. Water or Air!

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Hi all, new to Overclock.net. I've been a long time lurker but a first time poster. You guys have helped me get through a lot of computer questions just by digging through the forum. However, I'm at an impasse today as far as my decision on what to use for cooling on my q6600. I'm building a brand new rig and am tempted by the fall in prices of the q6600 and the fact that the G0 stepping overclocks very well. I have my system essentially setup and was initially going to go for the Zalman Reserator 1 v2 until I realized from several sites that it has the cooling power of a microwave. Please find my specs below

q6600
Gigabyte X38-DS4
Thermaltake Armor Series VA8000BWS Case
OCZ GameXStream 700W
Crucial Ballistix 2GB DDR 1066 PC28500
AS5 Compound
2x Radeon 3870

Now I'm not an avid overclocker but I've been in the scene for awhile now. However, I was hoping to push my q6600 to the 3.6ghz (3.8ghz if I'm lucky) on a stable 24/7 overclock.

After finding out that my Zalman was worthless to buy, I really fell in love with all the good rep about the Thermalright 120 Extreme. Was going to add some scythe or yate loon fans, do some lapping and be done with it. Until I ran across this forum and a suggestion to buy one of Petra's Tech Shop Custom Water kits (http://www.petrastechshop.com/pecoba.html) or (http://www.petrastechshop.com/pecoel.html) when the Zalman was brought up.

So here's the dilemma, should I just stick with the TRUE or go with the Petra's? Which one is more worth it? I'm not rich by any means, so saving 130 dollars versus the TRUE(after fans) is definitely a good thing. However, if the difference in the WC cooled petra kit is worth it to push my q6600 to the next level, I will definitely do it. I do not have the money to spend 300+ on building my own custom WC kit nor do I have the time to spend on finding the right parts or building it myself from scratch. I was also wondering, if you do suggest the Petra kit, which one is more worth it? The Basic or the Elite? I saw the Elite comes with the FuZion block that everyone loves, so will that automatically make up the 30 dollar price tag? What about the extra fan on the radiator?

Finally, I was wondering if I do go for the Petra kit, if I can include the chipset and GPU in the same loop or if thats too much for it to handle and I should go for a seperate loop or cooling solution for the chipset and gpu.

Thanks alot guys!
post #2 of 6
The TRUE with the dual fans will get you to 3.6GHz as long as your Q6600 is a G0, and your motherboard allows it. The water cooling will probably get you to maybe 3.7GHz depending on how good your processor is. Anything after that just requires to much voltage to be safe, even if your temps are fine.

100mhz won't be noticeable... maybe 200 marks in 3dmark06, and 0FPS in any game.

Its up to you, if you want to spend alot more money for basically the same overclock. (I'd choose the TRUE)

By the way, welcome to the forums.
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Hey there! Welcome to OCN! The Elite would definitely be your choice for water cooling. The FuZion simply blows the GT out of the water (no pun intended).

Fans are very useful to suck out heat from your radiator. It looks like both kits come with 2 fans and a radbox for a rear-mount.

If you are planning on water cooling and are going to buy either kit, make it a CPU loop only for best results. I can almost guarantee that your loop will be cooler than a TRUE if it is a single loop for your CPU; Adding the 2 GPUs will just dump heat into your loop and make your CPU that much warmer

I'll reiterate again, that if you want to water cool and want to but a premade kit, go with the Elite.

I would also recommend if you get extra $$ to pick up a Swiftech MCP655. That sucker pushes a lot of water, and is a quality pump.

Also, fill out your specs in the UserCP!
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I'm a big fan of liquid cooling, but it all depends on how much you're willing to spend and how much noise you want. My overvolted e6600 to 1.45 at 3.2ghz sits at 50c without lapping (i don't have the space or time at the moment.) Much cooler than my zalman which kept it at about 65c. But then again the lc setup includes an 8800gt and cost about 6x as much as the zalman. But my system sits in a fairly small dorm room and with everything turned up high (3 fans) i can barely hear it when i go to sleep.
    
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Hey guys,

Thanks for the quick responses! I wasn't expecting an answer for at least day, you guys are truly awesome!

I think my biggest fear is the one described in the first post. Getting a TRUE for ~70 after fans or a water kit for ~250 and there only being a 100mhz difference between the two. I really would like to know how much more dramatic the cooling with the kit would be over the TRUE, if you could give me some sort of estimate. 180-200 extra dollars is quite alot to be spending on cooling if its not a dramatic dramatic difference!

AJ
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Yeah, I understand, but your Q6600 run cooler on Water cooling
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