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Well with a power supply company as highly regarded as PCP&C and if there is no negative things besides possibly cost to using modular PSU's, then why doesn't PCP&C make modular PSU's? Or for that matter, why doesn't every PSU maker use modular if there are no drawbacks? Seems kind of stupid to be making non-modular if you can get better cable management and the same performance and quality with a modular design.

So if all companies aren't making modular, there must be a reason, right? So they can trick the consumer into thinking their PSU is better because it doesn't use modular? That just seems like a dumb business model to me. There must be a legitimate reason as to why all companies don't use modular if in fact there is no difference in quality.
There's lots of reasons. Biggest is the fact that Ultra has a patent on the design of a power supply with a modular interface on the housing. The impending law suit hovers over everyone's heads. Some people just step away from it in fear of ridiculous court costs and licensing fees. Others feel that Ultra doesn't have a leg to stand on with their patent and do whatever they want factoring only court costs for if and when Ultra does decide to sue someone. Some are tricky about it like Cooler Master. Don't sell modular PSU's, but sell cases with modular PSU's installed. Your customs paper work doesn't show you're importing power supplies; you're importing cases.

You'll find that almost every PSU in Europe is modular. Why? Because Ultra only has a U.S. patent. There's actually many more brands in Europe than there are in the U.S. Even Cooler Master happily distributes modular versions of the Real Power Pro in Europe while sticking with fixed cable versions here in the states.
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So then why are we even arguing it if that's the only reason? Why isn't everyone out buying Ultra PSU's if modular is so much better and nobody else in the States can make them?
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Which units for apples-to-apples comparison?
Silverstone Olympia and Decathalon series. You can usually get the step up non-modular for close to what the lower model modular costs. Why not just get the more powerful PSU?

Olympia OP650: $145
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256012

Decathalon DA650: $155
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256021

Olympia OP750: $165
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256016


I've also found that at least in my case, I've got too many connections for the detachable cables to be any sort of advantage, plus, they cables are spread out across the PSU's backplate, making them more difficult to group and route together.
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Or you could just get the non-modular one and use the 20-30 bucks you save to buy a few cases of Coors Light and drink until you forgot that your PSU is non-modular. It's a vicious cycle, but it works.
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So then why are we even arguing it if that's the only reason? Why isn't everyone out buying Ultra PSU's if modular is so much better and nobody else in the States can make them?
It is a preference. For most people, modular is easier to route. I personally like modular because I can make custom cables to exactly fit my case.

Other US companies can sell them. The question is will Ultra sue the other companies for patent infringement and do they have a case.
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So then why are we even arguing it if that's the only reason? Why isn't everyone out buying Ultra PSU's if modular is so much better and nobody else in the States can make them?
I wouldn't trust an Ultra modular PSU after the last one I got.

Silverstone, and Seasonic; those are the brands I trust. They know modular like PC P&C knows single-rail.
     
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Why isn't everyone out buying Ultra PSU's ?
Because Ultra psu's blow! No...really...they blow up pc's, lol.
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Because Ultra psu's blow! No...really...they blow up pc's, lol.
Tell that to the X3 line.
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Well the reason I don't have a modular psu is because I don't like spending $100 and upwards on psu's.
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It's not so much that each part costs that much. It's that the sum of the parts adds up. $1 here for the PCB, another $1.50 in connectors. Another half an hour in labor. Then of course, you take that and the OEM marks it up (they're in business to make money) and then the company contracting the work marks it up for their customer and then that retailer marks it up again for the end user and you've just about doubled the price of the "upgrade" to modular.
Jonny, are the PSU's hand built or do machines build them?
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