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Ive been looking into a Liquid cooling System for my Rig and I needed a little help. I'm looking for cooling only for my E8400 as of now. My case is very cluttered with wires and such, so I figured I could use an external cooling system. My case has two holes for tubing input and output so that is taken care of. My question is are there any radiator/pump/reservoir all in one external systems. If so, than I think I will just go with that and my CPU block of choice. Any advice is much appreciated. Thanks

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Does the E8400 even need WC'ing? I've heard that they top out their OC before heat even becomes an issue with just a HSF, I really don't know I don't use one, thats just what I've heard....If it does I'd save my $$$ and get something else with it...
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Depends on the voltage on it anyways. Though, rather be safe than sorry anyways.

ira-k comes up with very good set ups.
    
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Well, right now I'm running the stock Intel heatsink, so I want to upgrade. I want to be able to run 4.0 with very very very good temperatures. I thought I'd play it on the safer side and spend the extra money for the Watercooling.

I was also considering an internal kit that would fit in the drive bays. However, my cable management is pretty bad and my case is a mess, so I'm not sure Id like to clutter it more so.
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post #5 of 16
4.0 is doable on any air cooler though, but I'm not going to stop you from water

I'd recommend a fuzion if you go that route, how much do you have to spend?
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Temperatures will not be correct when you use any core temperature monitors for the E8400; a lot of people has experienced the incorrectness. All you have to pay attention to is the VOLTAGE. Do not get over 1.4V, not even that, do not get over 1.365V.

You can get pretty high overclocks with this, get yourself a TRUE + Good Fan or TT120, because if you are going to go for watercooling, be aware that you need to flush out a lot of money.

Temperature is not really a problem for 45nm. Go water if you want to be "cooler."
    
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post #7 of 16
external all in one kits are awful. Mount the rad on the outside and put the pump and reservoir inside. You could sue a bay reservoir so it is out of the way, and swiftech makes some very small pumps.
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Right now I'm running 3.0 on 1.08v. I was looking at the TRUE 120, would that be a more sensible solution for my rig? Will it be sufficient for 4.o? Thanks
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Originally Posted by LAhoopz11 View Post
Well, right now I'm running the stock Intel heatsink, so I want to upgrade. I want to be able to run 4.0 with very very very good temperatures. I thought I'd play it on the safer side and spend the extra money for the Watercooling.
I'd still make sure you really need all this first...

Something like this would make a good CPU only loop..

CPU Block....Custom..Stinger WB..Commercial... FuZion CPU Block..I use the all metal Stinger blocks and love them...

Back-Plate...Dtek FuZion Intel 775 Pro-Mount set

Pump...D-5

Rad..A 240 for CPU only a 360 if you think you might want to add a GPU later on..GTX360..These are great fans for them..86cfm Pana..You can get by with smaller if you would prefer....360 GTX Beats PA.3 Using 47cfm YL Fans.

Res or just a t-line...DD 5 1/4" Bay Reservoir..I like a res because i can bleed it a lot faster....

Tubing...You use it on 1/2" barbs, its a little more compact and fits the barbs tighter and will flow about as well as the full 1/2".7/16x5/8"..This for full 1/2x3/4"...1/2x3/4"

Coolant...Mix this at 10 or 11-1 with distilled water..Pentosin..Add a couple of drops of this for a biocide....PT Nuke

I'll leave you my cleaning and set up PDF and some good stuff to read...Be sure to read all the stickies here to they have a lot of good info in them...

...Water Cooling - In English

...Assembling your Custom Watercooling Setup

..Bleeding my WC setup..

...D-Tek Fuzion install tip! (Or why you should clean new blocks)

...How To: Clean out a D-Tek Fuzion CPU Block

...Poll: Push or pull configuration for Radiators

...Part 1- Temp's with and with-out shrouds

...How To: Make any Sized shroud in 2 minutes

...PC Water Coolant Chemistry - Part I

...Cooling - An In-Depth Look
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post #10 of 16
You can get to it on air like people say, but using TRUE is a bit more of a hassle, since you have to buy separate fan or fans and then mount it on it. While the TT120 can just be used out of the box, but the TRUE is the best cooling solution right now. You can still up it by around 2.5 volts and be fine. Heat is not a problem with the 45nm. It is just that it cannot handle proper higher voltages.

edit:
There are really no safe sides when you are overclocking.
It is not that beneficial either because once you run over that unknown killing voltage, even a chiller cannot save you. lol

But watercooling makes everything cooler.
    
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