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I've been brand loyal to AMD and ATI for about 10 years now, but I cant convince myself to stay in their camps any longer. I got a stellar deal on a eVGA 8800gt, and I'm thinking about replacing my 4000+ with an intel proc.
I know nothing of intels or their boards, so could someone please advise me, is this a good setup?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128059
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115017
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835200035
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I'd LIKE to go quadcore, if its overkill I can drop it for a nice dual. The mobo seems decent, most people seem to like it based on the reviews. The heatsink seems like a winner for the $/performance standpoint. I know a TRUE would be better, but $ is an issue. Hopefully the form i filled out stuck in the sig this time to list the other components I have to transfer over.
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nice, but switch the cooler to this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835154001
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no way will any cooler with a 90mm fan keep a Q4 under inferno limits. If I were you I would drop the Q4 in favor of a cheaper CPU and change the mobo out to a better one. The DS3L has some limited OC options in the BIOS.. not really the best choice if you are wanting to OC.

Have you considered a P5K-vanilla or a DFI-P35 Dark? Both are outstanding mobo's.. I would go w/ the DFI if you really wanted to stick with a Q4 as it has a 8 phase power layout.. vs. the 4phase on the P5k.

ps- I have a low VID E2200 4sale.. it will do 3.4ghz on air and ~3.7-3.8ghz on water.. the money you save could go to investing in a better mobo and cpu cooler.
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DS3L is a good budget board and OC's pretty good according to the thread here on OCN

The TT120 @ $40 is the best cooler for the money, and I personally would get a quad if I was building now
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I've been brand loyal to AMD and ATI for about 10 years now, but I cant convince myself to stay in their camps any longer. I got a stellar deal on a eVGA 8800gt, and I'm thinking about replacing my 4000+ with an intel proc.
I know nothing of intels or their boards, so could someone please advise me, is this a good setup?
it has nothing to do with brand loyalty what's good is good and well what's second is just that second.

intel quadcore is very good step up from anything amd,even amd quad

that mobo may or may not show u the full potential of a quad, hence the DFI are what i've leaned on. i've read alot that they make there p35/x38 chipset very OC friendly to quad.

going air cooling haven't done that in awhile but everyone that uses quad has either a t.r.u.e or thermalright getting very good results on OC.

as far as case is concerend id recommed a p182 only cause i like those cases and own one where my x2 5600+ resides
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The DS3L has some limited OC options in the BIOS.. not really the best choice if you are wanting to OC.
Sorry if I was too 'general' .. I am referring to the lack of SBv adjustments in the BIOS. This can be a big issue at certain FSB ranges or anytime you start raising the PCI-E freq.

I am currently attempting to help someone here on OCN with a 1x PCI-E lock issue with that mobo.. so far we have been unsuccessful in fixing it.

*I use a Tuniq for my Q6600. Works great, and keeps the temps under wraps.
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If you do a careful search of the people who are getting high 24/7 overclocks with 65nm quads (3.5Ghz+) you will notice that most of them have very good motherboards (P35/x38/780i).

The system you put together should be able to run @ 3.2Ghz 24/7 with no problem. This will be more than double the speed of your current system and is more than enough for gaming. If you want to do some video/photo editing and want to clock higher, I would get a better cooler. Above 3.2 it really becomes a BBQ and you need to dissipate a lot of heat.
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I concede the point on the cooler, I dont think i need enough horsepower to justify going wet, but I'll make the investment up front on a better cooler.

As for the mobo's, I see that a lot of folks on these forums like the 780i boards to go with their overclocked nVidia cards, I also see a lot of folks like the intel boards for overclocking their cpus. As a gamer with substantial photo/minor video editing, which would benefit me more?
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no way will any cooler with a 90mm fan keep a Q4 under inferno limits. If I were you I would drop the Q4 in favor of a cheaper CPU and change the mobo out to a better one. The DS3L has some limited OC options in the BIOS.. not really the best choice if you are wanting to OC.

Have you considered a P5K-vanilla or a DFI-P35 Dark? Both are outstanding mobo's.. I would go w/ the DFI if you really wanted to stick with a Q4 as it has a 8 phase power layout.. vs. the 4phase on the P5k.

ps- I have a low VID E2200 4sale.. it will do 3.4ghz on air and ~3.7-3.8ghz on water.. the money you save could go to investing in a better mobo and cpu cooler.
Like what? I had a ds3l for a while (decided on the p 'cause of raid) and it took my cpu to 3.5ghz (389x9) with next to no tweaking. I'd say stick with the ds3l. My only gripe about the gigabyte p35 boards is that you can't seem to change the RAM command rate to 2T, but given that vs the fact that you can keep the system voltages on "auto" in the bios and get my CPU to 3GHz rock stable with NO tweaking necessary, I'd say this is a great board/chipset--same with the ds3p. Just my 2 cents.

EDIT--Saw your most recent update on your clarification--gotcha. Haven't had a problem with the s/b voltage adjustments--but I really don't think that will be necessary unless you push say more than 375MHz FSB though--only had to raise mine by +0.1v when I was at ~390MHz.
    
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Like what? I had a ds3l for a while
- posted reply already.

DFI has great BIOS options generally speaking.. for me adjusting the SBv is very important.. as I go for very high FSB clocks and run my PCI-E freq above 110mhz most all of the time. Without the option to increase the voltage to the SB, you will be limited on your FSB clock and your PCI-E freq, as you need more voltage [as you always do, eventually].

So, if you have had great success with the DS3-L then fine! Congrats to you. I look for a mobo that will not limit my ability to push the system farther.. I like to let my cpu determine my systems limits intead.

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Sorry if I was too 'general' .. I am referring to the lack of SBv adjustments in the BIOS. This can be a big issue at certain FSB ranges or anytime you start raising the PCI-E freq.

I am currently attempting to help someone here on OCN with a 1x PCI-E lock issue with that mobo.. so far we have been unsuccessful in fixing it.
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