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Originally Posted by Mootsfox View Post
Someone did a test on HD-DVDs, and they were between 13.8Gb and about 30GB, with the average being about 22 or so. If I find the thread I'll link it here.

Those are HD-DVDs and not Blu-ray discs, but they are the same size really.
I assume that's size-on-disc. Well apparently most HD DVD's were encoded with VC-1 while most Blu-Ray discs at the moment are MPEG-2. Does MPEG-2 yield larger sizes? I would guess so...yeah my point is that Blu-Ray discs are going to be either the same size or even bigger.
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post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by Guruboy View Post
I assume that's size-on-disc. Well apparently most HD DVD's were encoded with VC-1 while most Blu-Ray discs at the moment are MPEG-2. Does MPEG-2 yield larger sizes? I would guess so...yeah my point is that Blu-Ray discs are going to be either the same size or even bigger.
Right now we have HD-DVD tri layer at 45GB total, and BR dual layer discs at 50GB total.

I'm not sure about the different formats though.
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post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by Retrospekt View Post
No one can go download a 8GB movie on a whim.

Blu-Ray won't be losing marketshare to digital downloads for awhile.
You're right, but I'll bet I can download one faster than one can mailed to me by Blockbuster or Netflix

It would ultimately be dependant on ISPs and if they want to let consumers stream movies that size - I have a feeling that will save or kill legal downloaded movies.
    
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post #14 of 21
$300 is already here, but $200 for a YEAR? are they kidding..... bring back HD-DVD .... LOLLL

you can get a $200+ blu ray drive though, damn you sony and your overpriced merchandise and high markup!
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post #15 of 21
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lame on Sony's part to actually get "HD" movies accepted into the mainstream.

They're going to loose to Microsoft because with this pricing scheme, digital downloads will end up winning. Sony needs saturation now if they want to have control.
Are you kidding me!!!!
A DVD is 8GB, a single layer Blue-Ray disc is 25 GB, and a dual layer is 50GB.
The general population can't DL 8Gb whenever they want...let alone 50GB! Heck, a pair of 50GB discs would fill up most laptop hard drives that I come across. Not to mention the internet speed that most people have...this would be impossible! I know ISPs are not going to let the general public stream HD movies a few times a week!

Blue-Ray will take home the trophy, hands down. The only competitor to Blue-Ray is DVD, and that will begin to be phased out in the next few years. Does nobody remember the price of DVD players at first..."Why would I ever buy that expensive DVD player when I can just buy it on VHS?"...sounds kinda like Blue-ray - DVD now.

Plus, most people want to be able to "feel" their library. I know my parents won't DL legal music, they would much rather buy the CD.
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post #16 of 21
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Originally Posted by Mootsfox View Post
Right now we have HD-DVD tri layer at 45GB total, and BR dual layer discs at 50GB total.

I'm not sure about the different formats though.
Sorry I wasn't clear. I meant the size of the HD movie on the disc, not the total possible size of the disc itself.
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post #17 of 21
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I don't know how big they are, but Engadget tried some AppleTV 2.0 HD downloads and were apparently able to watch them within 30 seconds (it wasn't finished, but they were able to watch what had already been downloaded). I don't know if they were able to watch the entire movie as it downloaded without having to wait, but it seems dedicated hardware/software for HD downloads works pretty well. Engadget seemed excited and satisfied.

To be realistic, I think we're going to have to accept Blu-Ray control for the time being. (I hope someone gets the reference!)
AppleTV movies are HD in resolution only. The movies themselves look awful.
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Digital media depends on ISPs mostly. Now we have people getting shut down for P2P downloads and if your ISP feels justified in shutting you down for that then they'll definately raise eyebrows at 2-3 movies (100GB +). If we weren't so far behind countries like Singapore in transfer rates this could be feasable but with the average residential internet access being 5mbps or less 50GB a movie isn't just chump change. Too not everyone has a 1TB hard drive to store movies on nor are they that cheap, even at 25GB a movie 1TB would only hold 40. And call me old fashioned but I like having the movie on a physical disc when I pay 30 bucks for it, although you could expect lower prices on HD media downloads. /off topic
Blu-ray won't become mainstream until it's gets mainstream pricing. Once it's lost it's fat then the households that chose HD-DVD or have held out will finally adopt it. When players hit < $200 you'll see alot more people finally moving on.
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$100 or forget it.
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A good bluray "Rip" is going to be around 13GB for a movie. That's just too much for the current average connection in the USA. And if you look at lots of european countries or australia, they have only a certain amount of bandwidth each month. There's no way digital distribution is going to work for HD a few years yet.
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