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Originally Posted by Stealth Pyros View Post
I don't see it would be too hard getting that 5.0 Ghz mark... I run my E8400 at 3.6 Ghz constantly and it stays at 34C on stock cooling. I have all the fans on my Antec Nine Hundred set to low and I don't even have my spare fan installed on the side window. In addition to these factors which contribute to more heat I live in Miami, FL, probably among the hottest and most humid places in the U.S. If I crank all fans up to high and install the extra fan at the window I can see myself easily getting to 5 Ghz reliably without increasing voltage by much. I brought it up to 4.2 Ghz but Vista started acting a little crazy, so I keep it at 3.6 Ghz. My build was $1,000 flat, with 2 500GB hard drives (very unnecessary for the average user)

You can do it.

I realize my system specs. say I run at 3.0 Ghz, but I haven't been a regular on here and haven't changed it.
Without ln2/dice/phase cooling, 5.0GHz is not going to happen. Even so, 24/7 is not a good idea due to the electron mitigation (see the phase change board). Hell, without decent water cooling, mid 4's aren't going to happen. With decent air cooling, you might be able to get livable temps above 4.0 as well, depending on the chip.

To the OP: I can't see any reason why somebody would need to run at 5GHz anyway, unless they wanna perpetually go for Super PI/3dmark suicide runs. Just get a decent processor (not sure what you need it for, so can't go into dual v quad) and upgrade your GPU's (at least to 8-series, but the 9's are coming out soon, so take that fwiw). If money is no object, and you want a more than gratuitous machine, buy a skulltrail, and equip it with a couple of 3870x2's and some DDR3 RAM. The QX9770 is coming out soon too, so go with that if you want a single CPU machine. If you're actually going to do this, post some nice pix and benchmarks too. /rant
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Pretty much, yeah.. sorry to say
You don't need crazy voltages to get 45nm chips up to 5GHZ, it's no doubt possible with just a small phase change unit, they are often run 24/7.

the only problem is power usage, it requires very high power to run especially non-stop

Also keep in mind, that running at 5.0GHZ will give you no benefit at all to real world performance, only synthetic benchmarks. Currently games are only bottlenecked by the GPU, that's why skulltrail sees little benefit with two quad cores running at once.
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I don't see it would be too hard getting that 5.0 Ghz mark... I run my E8400 at 3.6 Ghz constantly and it stays at 34C on stock cooling. I have all the fans on my Antec Nine Hundred set to low and I don't even have my spare fan installed on the side window. In addition to these factors which contribute to more heat I live in Miami, FL, probably among the hottest and most humid places in the U.S. If I crank all fans up to high and install the extra fan at the window I can see myself easily getting to 5 Ghz reliably without increasing voltage by much. I brought it up to 4.2 Ghz but Vista started acting a little crazy, so I keep it at 3.6 Ghz. My build was $1,000 flat, with 2 500GB hard drives (very unnecessary for the average user)

You can do it.

I realize my system specs. say I run at 3.0 Ghz, but I haven't been a regular on here and haven't changed it.
No you can't, not stable for prolonged use at that speed. You'll need near or at 1.4V just to play in the mid 4 range, you'll need a good deal more than .1V to get stable at the 5GHz this guy is talking about. Things to remember, I think I mentioned this. I'll use my experience with my old Q6600 G0 and my current Xeon 3060 since they both have the same multi's and clock speeds (one is quad one is dual). For 3.2GHz (800MHz more than stock) I only needed 1.325V, just a hair over my VID of 1.3125V. For 3.6GHz I needed 1.4V to be stable, for 3.8GHz I needed near 1.4875, so it was pretty obvious that I wasn't going to get 4GHz stable with a voltage less than 1.5V the safe limit, or 1.6V the scary limit. Just to get a benchmark run in I needed about 1.575V, stable would have been more than that. Temps weren't an issue as it was under water. Same concept with my Xeon, I could overclock it out of the box to 3.2, need about 1.375 for 3.4 and will need more for higher speeds. As your speed increases, it won't be a linear trend for adding voltage, it is exponential, the higher the speed, you will have to add significantly more voltage to stabilize it for comparable increases in clock. 5GHz stable without burning the chip out in a short amount of time is a pipe dream, especially on the voltage restricted 45nm chips.
    
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I hope you aren't referring to a dual core running each core at 2.5GHz.............. If you wanna think about it, you can get a Quad Core with each core running ~ 3.2GHz for a total of 12.8GHz..

For those that keep bringing up DICE And/Or LN2, quit doing it because it makes no sense at all to do that type of thing in this instance. Unless you had your own machine that would produce it constantly :O
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post #25 of 79
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You don't need crazy voltages to get 45nm chips up to 5GHZ, it's no doubt possible with just a small phase change unit, they are often run 24/7.

the only problem is power usage, it requires very high power to run especially non-stop

Also keep in mind, that running at 5.0GHZ will give you no benefit at all to real world performance, only synthetic benchmarks. Currently games are only bottlenecked by the GPU, that's why skulltrail sees little benefit with two quad cores running at once.
I only ask because those WR holding rigs on LN2 are using QX9650 processors and still need MEGA voltage to just run a suicide benchmark.
    
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A cedar mill cellie could do it.
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post #27 of 79
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A cedar mill cellie could do it.
The better question then would be...why besides saying you had it? Any Core2 would perform better at a slower speed.
    
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post #28 of 79
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You don't need crazy voltages to get 45nm chips up to 5GHZ
Crazy as in how? 590.66 volts?

1.4v and above for a 45nm chip is high... 1.5v would be crazy, and thats what would be needed to get a 45nm chip to 5Ghz...

The smaller the chip, the more increased sensitivity to voltage due to electron mitigation... Thus, if you wanted to run at 5Ghz for longer then a few days, he'd need a 90nm chip with high voltage tolerance but it would be a single core chip, and useless for any future applications...

EDIT:
Cooling isn't a problem. People want to use LN2 because it's "cool" (no pun intended) and very cheap. As a certified HVAC tech with my EPA license type 1 & 3 (didn't get universal on the EPA test damnit), you can buy/or have someone make you a phase change kit that can cool your chip to almost Ln2 temps. It would be very expensive because you wouldn't be doing phase change anymore, it would be a different type of cooling they use for other scientific related items. Couple different ways to go but again, cooling isn't the problem. Your voltage running through the chip is.

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I think it'd just be for bragging rights, ya know? I guess if you didn't care about the equipment, how long it lasted, what your electricity bill would be, etc... you'd do it just to do it (if it's possible, for the processor chosen).
    
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post #30 of 79
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You don't need crazy voltages to get 45nm chips up to 5GHZ, it's no doubt possible with just a small phase change unit, they are often run 24/7.

the only problem is power usage, it requires very high power to run especially non-stop

Also keep in mind, that running at 5.0GHZ will give you no benefit at all to real world performance, only synthetic benchmarks. Currently games are only bottlenecked by the GPU, that's why skulltrail sees little benefit with two quad cores running at once.

Ok so 5.0Ghz wouldn't help folding at all?? Do you realize what you said, I sure don't think you do, and if you didn't need crazy voltages on 45nm chips then oh yea that's why everyone is running 5.0GHz right
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