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post #31 of 44
Again, in a situation where you *NEED* that extra memory, it makes a big difference.

http://en.expreview.com/2007/12/30/r...d%ef%bc%9f/10/

Granted those situations with todays games are few and far between. But that doesn't mean that will true in *tomorrows* games ...

And what about with SLI? If my understanding of how SLI works is correct, I think there could be quite a benefit to having 1G of ram to work with between two 8800GT's rather than only 512M. My understanding is that memory amounts don't add up in SLI mode, correct?

Another thing to consider is that its NOT just resolution that determines how much vram your application is using. Not by a long shot. At LEAST, if not more, important is the sizes of the textures that are being loaded into memory at the beginning of each game level (assuming we're talking about gaming here in general).

That is why, when you look at the rest of the charts in that article, the 1G doesn't seem to scale better at higher resolutions than the 512MB version. Apparently, the ONLY time in all their tests that >512MB was needed to store the textures and accommodate the frame buffer was in this one game.

But all that has to happen to prove *MY* point is for there to be *ONE* example where the 1G card wipes the floor with the 512MB card. Because if what you appear to be saying were TRUE, and the 256-bit bus actually renders the extra VRAM *USELESS* by definition (i.e. due to the bus width), there would be ZERO examples of the 1GB card outperforming the 512MB card.

Am I wrong on this point?
    
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Buy this card then and tell us about it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814261006

Better yet get this one:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...=6022&Itemid=1
post #33 of 44
well since this has become some argument about memory and bandwidth on 8800gt instead of answering the OP's question.


i would personally reccommend the 9600gt. price vs performance is amazing for this card. its getting almost the same scores and even sometimes better than an 8800gt 256
post #34 of 44
Oh wait, here's another example from the same article:
http://en.expreview.com/2007/12/30/r...d%ef%bc%9f/11/

Again, if the extra 512 is WORTHLESS due to the limitation of the 256-bit bus, explain to me how what we see in this link happens EVER?
    
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yeah man its go for the best mid range 9600gt it kills the 9600 and is only slightly less than the 8800 series.
    
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http://en.expreview.com/2007/12/30/r...d%ef%bc%9f/11/

How about a 40% framerate boost in Crysis at 1920x1200 at 4xAA?

Oh, and to the OP, sorry to hijack the thread. Hopefully you are gaining some insights here at least

Or, here you go:
http://en.expreview.com/2007/12/30/r...d%ef%bc%9f/15/

in the game PT Boats: Knights of the Sea:

1920x1200 4xAA
8800GT 512MB: 4.3 FPS
8800GT 1024MB: 19.6 FPS

A 355% INCREASE in frames being seen here. Hmmm...

Looks like the whole 256-bit bus with 1G of RAM being a total waste on the 8800GT argument falls a bit flat when results like this come out. Anyone still wanna debate this subject?
    
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Has anyone really read the op's first post? His max res is only 1024 by 768 a 8800 or a 9600 would be a waste of money you don't need that much power for that size monitor. Right now his best bet would be to get a 8600 by evga that would give him three months to get a new monitor and in those three months the prices of the 88 and 96 series cards would drop even lower then it would be time to upgrade.
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post #38 of 44
yes i did read his op and thats why i recommended the 9600 instead of something higher. there are still some games he won't be able to max at that res with an 8600. trust me i have one, i know. plus the 9600 will support higher res if he wants to upgrade in the future.
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If it were me in his shoes and I'd probably be looking at this:

http://www.compuvest.com/Search.jsp?...dvsite=nexttag

7900GS at $149. The one I used to have overclocked by 30% quite handily. Awesome card, IMHO.

OR at this:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch...=done&nextloc=

xt1950pro @ $139
Another awesome card, runs a little hot, but it can handle ANYthing at 1280x1024 very nicely.

I just wouldn't drop coin on a card with a 128-bit memory bus these days myself.

This is all assuming he can't wait until he has the money for the 9600GT, which is quite a lot better card.
    
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brettjv View Post
http://en.expreview.com/2007/12/30/r...d%ef%bc%9f/11/

How about a 40% framerate boost in Crysis at 1920x1200 at 4xAA?

Oh, and to the OP, sorry to hijack the thread. Hopefully you are gaining some insights here at least

Or, here you go:
http://en.expreview.com/2007/12/30/r...d%ef%bc%9f/15/

in the game PT Boats: Knights of the Sea:

1920x1200 4xAA
8800GT 512MB: 4.3 FPS
8800GT 1024MB: 19.6 FPS

A 355% INCREASE in frames being seen here. Hmmm...

Looks like the whole 256-bit bus with 1G of RAM being a total waste on the 8800GT argument falls a bit flat when results like this come out. Anyone still wanna debate this subject?
I was going to let this go because it doesn't help the OP but:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/502/12/
PT Boats: 1920x1200
8800GT 1024MB = 36 FPS
8800GT 512MB = 32 FPS
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