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dude even an 8600 compares with a 7900gs or 1900pro. the 9600 out performs both and can be had for the same price ($150)
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Originally Posted by kpo6969 View Post
I was going to let this go because it doesn't help the OP but:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/502/12/
PT Boats: 1920x1200
8800GT 1024MB = 36 FPS
8800GT 512MB = 32 FPS
Okay. So, that article shows that bench with NO AA, and the one I linked, with 355% improvement in frames on the 1G version, shows it WITH 4xAA.

But even IN the graph YOU are linking to, at 2560x1600, we see:

8800GT 1024MB = 26 FPS
8800GT 512MB = 10 FPS

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me HOW the 1G card can OUTPERFORM the 512MB card by between 40% and 355% on ANY benchmarks (let alone on 4 different games) *IF* it is in fact the case that the 256bit memory bus, somehow, by it's very NATURE, renders the extra 512MB of memory USELESS, which is what has been argued by a couple of other posters.

If someone wants proffer this idea that VRAM (amount in megabytes) > 2 x Bus Width (measured in bits) is a waste, that's fine. As VERY GENERAL rule, I would tend to agree.

But what I DO NOT agree with (and in fact know to be wrong), is that it's actually 'that simple', or that there are any absolutes involved here.

The equation you suggest is NOT based on any sort of 'real math' ... it's a borderline arbitrary, 'thumb in the air' GUESS. Nothing more.

There's a lot more to the REAL equation.

And again, for your assertion to be correct about the 8800GT not being able to make use of the extra 512MB, there would have to exist no benchmarks that refute your assertion. Clearly, there are such benchmarks, therefore ...
    
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dude even an 8600 compares with a 7900gs or 1900pro. the 9600 out performs both and can be had for the same price ($150)
Oh I agree, if you can get a 9600GT for that same price, it's a no-brainer.

But I will proffer this tidbit to you:

The GeForce 8600 GTS graphics card from Asustek Computer performs as good as the GeForce 7900 GS, a product that has been available on the market for 8 months already. In most benchmarks the 8600 GTS is faster, in other, it is slower (F.E.A.R., Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, Prey, Hitman) than the GeForce 7900 GS, but in the vast majority of real-world situations it lags behind the Radeon X1950 Pro.

from:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...600gts_22.html

And again the 7900GS is a fabulous overclocker, once OC'd, it is every bit the equal of the x1950Pro (which doesn't overclock well).

I was under the impression that the 9600 was out of his price range. For my money, if I'm spending around $150, I'd still prefer one of the two cards I mentioned over an 8600GTS. But thats just me
    
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http://en.expreview.com/2007/12/30/r...d%ef%bc%9f/11/

How about a 40% framerate boost in Crysis at 1920x1200 at 4xAA?

Oh, and to the OP, sorry to hijack the thread. Hopefully you are gaining some insights here at least

Or, here you go:
http://en.expreview.com/2007/12/30/r...d%ef%bc%9f/15/

in the game PT Boats: Knights of the Sea:

1920x1200 4xAA
8800GT 512MB: 4.3 FPS
8800GT 1024MB: 19.6 FPS

A 355% INCREASE in frames being seen here. Hmmm...

Looks like the whole 256-bit bus with 1G of RAM being a total waste on the 8800GT argument falls a bit flat when results like this come out. Anyone still wanna debate this subject?
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