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Guys how is this lcd? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824005089 It dose not have dvi though.

I'm still waiting for my ViewSonic replacement at work

Thanks
That's actually a really good monitor. It uses a P-MVA panel. I dunno what Mr. Urufu is smoking, it's that Acer that uses a crap TN panel.

And it doesn't have DVI but it does have HDMI input, which is the equivalent.
And it comes with a DVI to HDMI cable, that would let you plug it into your GPU.
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post #12 of 39
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That's actually a really good monitor. It uses a P-MVA panel. I dunno what Mr. Urufu is smoking, it's that Acer that uses a crap TN panel.

And it doesn't have DVI but it does have HDMI input, which is the equivalent.
And it comes with a DVI to HDMI cable, that would let you plug it into your GPU.
*sigh*

TN panels have improved a lot since 1998. When the price difference is $200, the TN panel is fine.

P-MVA panels often have huge problems with ghosting, aren't as bright and are expensive. They usually have better viewing angles, and better colors though. However, using viewing angle as a buying factor for a computer monitor is just... stupid. Unless you sit at a 170 degree angle from your monitor.

Also look out for HDCP monitors. Without it, you can't watch HD content over DVI.
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*sigh*

TN panels have improved a lot since 1998. When the price difference is $200, the TN panel is fine.

P-MVA panels often have huge problems with ghosting, aren't as bright and are expensive. They usually have better viewing angles, and better colors though. However, using viewing angle as a buying factor for a computer monitor is just... stupid. Unless you sit at a 170 degree angle from your monitor.

Also look out for HDCP monitors. Without it, you can't watch HD content over DVI.
All LCD panel technology has improved.
And TN's still suck in comparison.
Your statement about P-MVA's is false.
Hell even S-IPS panels don't ghost anymore.
And brightness is determined by a backlight source.
Better color reproduction, and viewing angles is a good way to buy a monitor.


The man asked if it was a good monitor, I answered him and cleared up false information from another post.
If you want to be immature and fight about panels go for it. I was simply trying to help the man. While you cared to shove something completely unrelated down him.

I always like when someone asks "What is a better? Product A or B?"
And then people come in and give there twelve cents, and say "Product X"
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I always like when someone asks "What is a better? Product A or B?"
And then people come in and give there twelve cents, and say "Product X"
Normally they aren't just asking between two products. They are asking between a lot, and have two products in mind.

I didn't mean to come off so harshly about panel types, but I've been seeing a lot of crap about TN panels for no reason. Generally they have faster response times and are quite a bit cheaper in price. Ghosting is still very much a problem. Just look at the Dell 2407 series.
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That's actually a really good monitor. It uses a P-MVA panel. I dunno what Mr. Urufu is smoking, it's that Acer that uses a crap TN panel.

And it doesn't have DVI but it does have HDMI input, which is the equivalent.
And it comes with a DVI to HDMI cable, that would let you plug it into your GPU.
The Acer AL2416Wid is the TN version, the straight W is a S-PVA, here are two links, there were a bunch more but most were korean or russian, lol:

http://www.behardware.com/art/imprimer/595/
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...39&postcount=7

So the one I linked is definately a samsung S-PVA panel. That sale price at officedepot is insane, I don't think the difference between modern S-PVA and modern TN are bigger than that price difference, I'd go for the sale!


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As an owner of a Dell 2407WFP and a 2408WFP I can say they are both amazing panels. The 2407WFP being nice for the inputs.
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As an owner of a Dell 2407WFP and a 2408WFP I can say they are both amazing panels. The 2407WFP being nice for the inputs.
They'd both be nice for the inputs, the 2408 has eight!

I got rid of mine because of the input lag and general ghosting problems.

This TN panel ($280 Office Depot one) I have now has no noticeable ghosting, it's brighter than anything I've ever used, and it bleeds less than my old Westinghouse which has an MVA panel in it.
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Samsung 245bw...

So pretty.. i feel like ive responded to so many 24'' lcd questions in the last 2 months (mainly this exact q)

Yeah.. it's an amazing monitor.. and it's a great price.. so beautiful.. moves around great.. amazing stand.

Does not have the usb crap or speakers.... but who needs that ? z5500 ftw
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The Acer AL2416Wid is the TN version, the straight W is a S-PVA, here are two links, there were a bunch more but most were korean or russian, lol:

http://www.behardware.com/art/imprimer/595/
http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/s...39&postcount=7

So the one I linked is definately a samsung S-PVA panel. That sale price at officedepot is insane, I don't think the difference between modern S-PVA and modern TN are bigger than that price difference, I'd go for the sale!
The one you linked to though is the Wsd version.
The Wsd has a TN panel.
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Samsung 245bw...

So pretty.. i feel like ive responded to so many 24'' lcd questions in the last 2 months (mainly this exact q)

Yeah.. it's an amazing monitor.. and it's a great price.. so beautiful.. moves around great.. amazing stand.
I also have a Samsung 245BW and think it's a great monitor, but I recently purchased a Gateway that outperforms it. I see more detail with the Gateway. Here's the model that I'm referring to along with a few more comments on it.
http://www.overclock.net/appraisals/...5w-24-lcd.html
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