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I recently built my first PC (sig) and have gotten into the PC scene a little bit. It's becoming my new hobby. I just built my grandpa a nice gaming rig, and now I am going to build my aunt a PC for light duty office work. She uses nothing more intensive than Internet Explorer (on dial up), Turbo Tax, Word, Excel, and E-mail. She recently bought XP for her current computer, but it is a slow piece of garbage and can barely run it. I will use that disc of XP for this new computer as well as her current keyboard and mouse. I am going to assume they are OK and can be reused. I have actually not even talked to her about this, but I know she needs a new one. Budget is real tight, but I'm going to push for $800 MAX. Preferably less.

This is what I have come up with so far, I think I could probably cut some costs a little. I am unsure as to what motherboard and processor she should run. I also need help determining what RAM to get. If I get the 800MHz FSB processor, do I get DDR2 667 or 800 RAM? XP 32 is all she will run so there is no need for more than 2GB of memory. I like the idea of making it as quiet as possible. I also want to make it as energy efficient as possible. I like the > 80% efficient power supplies. I'm not sure how much power is too much, and how much is too little.

I skimped a little on my grandpa's computer and gave him an EVGA 8600GTS Superclocked 512MB, so I am going to get the 9600GT for him and swap the 8600 into my aunt's computer. That is WAY more video card than she needs. I figure the 9600GT has a slightly slower clock, but twice the stream processors and memory interface. So keep in mind the 9600GT will go into grandpa's computer, and the 8600GTS 512MB Superclocked will go into this current build for my aunt.

Rosewill ATX midtower case
I like the I/O panel on the top and the power button near the top as well. I prefer no door panel, but I cannot find one I like that does not have the door panel.

Antec Earthwatts 380W
I prefer modular cables but cannot find a low wattage PSU with this feature. I Also like the > 80% efficiency. Is this enough? Not enough?

EVGA 610i
I really need help with this. I don't know anything about budget motherboards. I trust EVGA and would like to use their products.

Intel E2200 2.2GHz
I'm unsure with the lower end processors as well. I want a dual core, but low cost and highest speed as possible. This one looks to be the best bet. It will not be over-clocked at all, sorry.

G-skill 2x1GB DDR2 800
I picked this for the 2GB as well as the very low timing. 4-4-4-12. Assuming it's advisable to run 800FSB processor and 800mhz RAM, I think this is ok?

EVGA 9600GT (86 octane version, I may get the SSC if funds are available)
Standard EVGA 9600GT which will go into my grandpa's computer. I may get the SSC version for him, I am not sure. Would this be a big step up from his 8600GTS Superclocked? Like I said, I want to give this to him because of the doubled stream processors and memory interface.

WD 250GB HDD
I may be able to get away with a 160GB, but I figure 250GB is more than she will need by many times over.

Lite-On combo drive
I have a Lite-On drive, it has served me well.

Hanns-G 19" LCD monitor
I did not take a lot of time to search out a monitor. I will have to put more thought into this as I feel this is a really big decision. This one got good reviews on NewEgg so I threw it in there to get a final price point.

So what do you guys think? Any help would be appreciated, and any cost cutting measures would be even more appreciated! I want BIG performance with little cost (is that possible??????) Here is a pic of my cart.

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Does your grandfather really need a gaming card? If he doesnt just get your grandmother onboard and save the cash. Also I would check how much of her hard drive she uses, I bet it is less than 20Gb, so if you need to shave a little off you could get a 160Gb. My motherboard is a great budget board, but it is 30 more than the one you have on there. Another thing is you may want a cheaper case. Rosewill makes one with 1 120mm fan that would probably work perfectly fine for your grandmother and it is only like 20 on newegg.
    
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http://www.overclock.net/3516261-post7.html

I just did that up in another thread, and it suits your needs perfectly as well. And just throwing this out there, but the 430w Antec Earthwatts is actually cheaper than the 380w unit on Newegg right now.
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Does your grandfather really need a gaming card? If he doesnt just get your grandmother onboard and save the cash. Also I would check how much of her hard drive she uses, I bet it is less than 20Gb, so if you need to shave a little off you could get a 160Gb. My motherboard is a great budget board, but it is 30 more than the one you have on there. Another thing is you may want a cheaper case. Rosewill makes one with 1 120mm fan that would probably work perfectly fine for your grandmother and it is only like 20 on newegg.
Grandpa does need the gaming video card. He has a ton of games he plays. The "most intensive" one he plays now is BF2, but I am going to give him COD4 and see if he can manage that.

I will look into your suggestions further tomorrow. Right now it is party time!!
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Changed a few things.

Rosewill Case $23.99
I really like these cheap Rosewill cases. They look nice and are cheap! Hopefully it is well built.

Western Digital 160GB HDD $49.99
From what I have Googled, this should be a single platter 160GB drive. Hopefully that will prolong its life.

Antec Earthwatts 430W $49.99
This is cheaper than the 380 as pointed out to me.

Rosewill standard Keyboard $6.99
CHEAP keyboard. Looks pretty nice.

Linkworld Optical Mouse $6.99
CHEAP mouse. It looks decent to me. Hopefully it is comfortable.

Without the video card the total is $538.90. With the 9600GT for my grandpa's computer, total will be $708.99.

I'm going to talk to her tomorrow. We are having a family dinner for her birthday which is today. I wish I had the money so I could buy her the computer. :/ This will probably be my first solo build. I have only watched it be done before, I've never put the components in myself. We'll see how it goes.
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The 2200 won't be enough for gaming. If you overclocked a 2160 or 2180 it would work for newer games, but if you don't plan on overclocking you need a CPU with at least 2.4ghz.

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The 2200 won't be enough for gaming. If you overclocked a 2160 or 2180 it would work for newer games, but if you don't plan on overclocking you need a CPU with at least 2.4ghz.

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She won't be gaming with this computer. If she does, it will be something simple like golf. I just want the video card for flexibility. And I want an excuse to try out a 9600GT!
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Rosewill Case $23.99
I really like these cheap Rosewill cases. They look nice and are cheap! Hopefully it is well built.
dont count on it. those cheapo cases are pretty crappy but if your not in there all the time it will be fine. just make sure there are a couple fan holes and your good.
   
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