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Hello fellow OCN'ers!!

Everyone has their own way of testing their system for stabiliy, as one can find out just by reading the "Official" threads. Some of us test for half an hour to an hour with a priority of 8-9, whilst others test at priority of 1 for 8-10hours. I find it all so confusing!
I was asked once, "How many hours a day will your system be running?" and after having given an answer, "That's how long you should test your system..". Logical right?

So to finally clear things up:

HOW LONG MUST ONE RUN STABILITY TESTS AND AT WHICH PRIORITY TO BE SURE THAT ONE'S SYSTEM IS STABLE?

(I ask this because I've somehow managed to kill 2 mobo's over the past 6 months, even after having Orthos tested the system for 8+ hours at a priority of 7)

thanks to all that respond and help me NOT to kill my recent mobo!!
    
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IMHO stability is a state of the users mind. A computer in a windows enviroment is never stable as it's always prone to a crash sometime sooner or later regardless of how long it's been "stable". I usually just do a run overnight with blend after doing a small fft test for like 1hr with Orthos. I consider that stable and I do no other testing.

In the end - it's user preferrence. If you are okay with a 30 minute run in OCCT or Orthos. Then it's stable for you. If you require more longevity in your testing, do it. I perfer to use my computer though so I don't do much stress testing past what I discussed.
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i fold and if i dont get any errors then i leave it folding but if i do get errors then il make some adjustments
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I do 10-12hrs in orthos @ prority 9.
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Personally, I don't consider an OC to be stable unless it:

A) Can run small fft orthos on priority 7 (or higher) for 12 hrs+
B) Can run blend orthos on priority 7 (or higher) for 12 hrs+
C) Can run a bootable memtest for 3 full passes or more
D) Can run ATI Tool artifact scanner for at least 1 hr (if you count GFX too)


This is usually satisfactory as I fold when not using my PC, so it gets quite a bit of use 24/7. I find that most people are willing to overlook some instability to achieve high OC (especially with GFX cards) There was a post from a member who stated he had his Q6600 running at 4.6Ghz on air and it was perfectly stable. Since they never supplied any specifics, I can only assume they meant it would post or boot into Windows If you don't want to deal with random shut downs or BSOD's, test as long as your patience will allow


edit: Nothing is guaranteed, though. I have had systems stable for months and, all of a sudden, start to act funny. Hardware does deteriorate over time much faster when OC'd. Since most of us here rarely keep the same set-up for more than a year, it usually doesn't matter much. (unless you are really pushing the limits)
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IMHO stability is a state of the users mind. A computer in a windows enviroment is never stable as it's always prone to a crash sometime sooner or later regardless of how long it's been "stable". I usually just do a run overnight with blend after doing a small fft test for like 1hr with Orthos. I consider that stable and I do no other testing.

In the end - it's user preferrence. If you are okay with a 30 minute run in OCCT or Orthos. Then it's stable for you. If you require more longevity in your testing, do it. I perfer to use my computer though so I don't do much stress testing past what I discussed.
i agree.

i run OCCT for the half hour cpu run, then Orthos blend while i sleep. if there are no errors i consider that stable.

while im on the testing subject i figure i will throw my 2 cents in on temps too. the ever-holy 60C top mark is just silly to me. no temp software is absolutely accurate. temp monitor software should be used only as a guesstimate. follow voltage guidelines and use common sense when it comes to temp and you'll be fine. i've beatin the crap (literally, lapped?lol)out of this little e6300 and was pumping about 1.5vcore through it for a while and it's still rolling(for how much longer i do not know lol). if i followed what coretemp told me i never would of breached 2.8 on a lapped tuniq and chip at 1.375vcore.
   
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i agree.

i run OCCT for the half hour cpu run, then Orthos blend while i sleep. if there are no errors i consider that stable.

while im on the testing subject i figure i will throw my 2 cents in on temps too. the ever-holy 60C top mark is just silly to me. no temp software is absolutely accurate. temp monitor software should be used only as a guesstimate. follow voltage guidelines and use common sense when it comes to temp and you'll be fine. i've beatin the crap (literally, lapped?lol)out of this little e6300 and was pumping about 1.5vcore through it for a while and it's still rolling(for how much longer i do not know lol). if i followed what coretemp told me i never would of breached 2.8 on a lapped tuniq and chip at 1.375vcore.
I agree to an extent as well. I usually go by voltage limits as my water cooling is sufficient to cool. I try to stay at or below 1.525v in BIOS. I still use coretemp and speedfan, but only due to habit. I think the most accurate way is to use coretemps delta to max. (I know, the max isn't accurate either) If you keep it within 30C or so, you are fine regardless of the actual temp.
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So far this seems like the BEST stability test ever:
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A) Can run small fft orthos on priority 7 (or higher) for 12 hrs+
B) Can run blend orthos on priority 7 (or higher) for 12 hrs+
C) Can run a bootable memtest for 3 full passes or more
D) Can run ATI Tool artifact scanner for at least 1 hr (if you count GFX too)
I personaly think if your system can withstand THAT then you're 100% stable. (Of course keeping in mind Windows is bound to fail sooner or later ). And the deterioration of hardware as well as temeratures due to overclocking are ABSOLUTELY factors one must keep in mind! Pushing your setup to the limits is nice for short term use/benchmarking but I, along with others, would like to enjoy our rigs for at least a year or two. But that is pretty normal under the gamers, heck, you are nearly forced to renew your system as games become graphically realisticer(?). (But who's to complain about that?! We all get the chance once again to show off our benchmarks and brag a little as well)

But hardware deterioration within 2-3months? Were we pushing the limits too far then? I had hardly touched the NB voltage on my Striker Extreme, Ram 1:1 950Mhz 5-5-5-15:2t @ 1.8v and ran an E6750 @ 3.8Ghz:1.456v....died within 2 months. Along with an Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6, same story . And both setups were 100% Orthos-blend stable for 10+ hours!!

Cheap manufacturers or cheap parts? And I'm so afraid of having the same thing happen to this board as well! I mean you head the manufacturers warning and stay within the boundries, and in the end you still get cheated!
    
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So far this seems like the BEST stability test ever:


I personaly think if your system can withstand THAT then you're 100% stable. (Of course keeping in mind Windows is bound to fail sooner or later ). And the deterioration of hardware due to overclocking is ABSOLUTELY a factor one must keep in mind! Pushing your setup to the limits is nice for short term use/benchmarking but I, along with others, would like to enjoy our rigs for at least a year or two. But that is pretty normal under the gamers, heck, you are nearly forced to renew your system as games become graphically realisticer(?). (But who's to complain about that?! We all get the chance once again to show off our benchmarks and brag a little as well)

But hardware deterioration within 2-3months? Were we pushing the limits too far then? I had hardly touched the NB voltage on my Striker Extreme, Ram 1:1 950Mhz 5-5-5-15:2t @ 1.8v and ran an E6750 @ 3.8Ghz:1.456v....died within 2 months. Along with an Gigabyte GA-X38-DQ6, same story . And both setups were 100% Orthos stable for 10+ hours.

Cheap manufacturers or cheap parts? And I'm so afraid of having the same thing happen to this board as well!
thats cause its ASUS lool
   
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thats cause its ASUS lool
Then...all ASUS boards should be Orthos-blend tested for 2 months, priority 9 before declaring stability??
    
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