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1. they probably don't "need" 2v to reach ddr800, though they may or may not need around that to be fully stable with 4-4-4 timings at DDR800, That's not unusual.

2. Lots of 2GiB stick use D9 (HNL), just not the good D9 (GMH, GKX). You actually cannot make a normal 2GiB dimm with D9GMH or D9GKX as each chip is 64MiB so it takes a full 16 to make a gig.

3. I have no idea what chips they use, but micron is not the only good memory, esp when it comes to 2GiB modules (D9HNL kinda suck IMO).
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Fast memory, works well with asus m2r32-mvp, crossfire certified. Had to set the correct timings/voltage in the bios and away it went. Currently running it with and AMD 3800x2 oc'ed to 2700 at 441/882 @ 4/4/4/12/1t. This memory has pumped new life into my setup.. might make it a bit longer before I have to upgrade cpu now.

pretty solid review IMHO
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D9HNL kinda suck imo lawlz...

Why do they suck cause u cant get 1200mhz ? but u can only get 1100mhz.

Man this donsent meen the memory is crap.



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1. they probably don't "need" 2v to reach ddr800, though they may or may not need around that to be fully stable with 4-4-4 timings at DDR800, That's not unusual.

2. Lots of 2GiB stick use D9 (HNL), just not the good D9 (GMH, GKX). You actually cannot make a normal 2GiB dimm with D9GMH or D9GKX as each chip is 64MiB so it takes a full 16 to make a gig.

3. I have no idea what chips they use, but micron is not the only good memory, esp when it comes to 2GiB modules (D9HNL kinda suck IMO).
post #14 of 22
Compaired to D9GMH, D9HNL:

Requires looser timings, esp for tRFC, precharge to activate, and precharge to refresh delay.

Cannot take as much voltage before being damaged.

Tops out between 25 and 50MHz (not ddr) slower at any given set of primary timings.

Now, it is higher density and probably compaires pretty well to other chips used in 2GiB dimms, but it does not seem to stand out from the crowd like the earlier micron memory did.

Just saying I wouldn't pay a premium for anything based on D9HNL, unless it was proven to have been binned exceptionally well.
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Originally Posted by Blameless View Post
Compaired to D9GMH, D9HNL:

Requires looser timings, esp for tRFC, precharge to activate, and precharge to refresh delay.

Cannot take as much voltage before being damaged.

Tops out between 25 and 50MHz (not ddr) slower at any given set of primary timings.

Now, it is higher density and probably compaires pretty well to other chips used in 2GiB dimms, but it does not seem to stand out from the crowd like the earlier micron memory did.

Just saying I wouldn't pay a premium for anything based on D9HNL, unless it was proven to have been binned exceptionally well.

You are correct, they are not the same ICs. Just because Micron named them D9NHL, that doesnt mean they are anything like the D9GMH. If Micron had called them D10NHL, people wouldnt be making this argument. It is definitely Micron's fault for using the D9 nameing scheme, but these are new ICs.

I agree with you that they need to be compared to other 2x2Gb kits and not the 2x1Gb kits.
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Wait you're going to run 8gb on a 32bit O/S? I really hope you're planning to go 64bit then...
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I'm planning to upgrade to 64 Bit in the future. I was just asking for opinions on that 4GB set.
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post #18 of 22
the team dark's have powerchips on them same as most other 4gb kits now.

imo get the corsair dominators from zipzoomfly only 119 after rebate for 1066 4gb kits!!
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Or just get this for $100 and not bother with rebates - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145

Most people can get 1066 at 2.1v.
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but so far most are getting 1140+ with the corsair kit and imo i would go 1066 because at least its warr for that. if you tell g.skill the 1000 will not do 1066 well.. oh well..
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