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I was browsing through different forums and websites and liked what I saw and how everyone in this community seems to help each other and guide each other in the right direction...

So my question is, I am thinking about doing a build but it has been awhile since I have really looked into Intel CPU's and compatible motherboards. My current computer is slightly out-dated in terms of new technology.

Right now my setup is:

-AMD Athlon 64x2 4200+ (think its running at 2.3)
-Stock HSF that comes with it
-A8N-Deluxe SLi (Socket 939.. yea i know, its old...)
-2 GIG memory (no idea on the brand and speeds)
-GeForce 7600 GT (Two of these running in SLi, not really happy with performance....)
-Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Soundcard (works ok, no complaints)
-Cooler Master - Wave Master Case (works fine, quiet enough for me)
-DVDR Rom
-CDR Rom
-75Gig HD


After thinking about what I want for the next computer, I definitely want to go Intel CPU and Motherboard. As far as which CPU and MB... I am unsure... which leads me to, which CPU and motherboard combination do you suggest??

I play computer games, usually Counterstrike or similar style games, as well as some MMO games. As for graphics and things, I am pretty sure I will either go with two 8800 GT or maybe one 9800... depending on the specs and benchmarks...

Any help and suggestions would be great.
    
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post #2 of 15
you dont need two 8800GTs to run an MMO or counter-strike...in fact, your graphics cards are equal pretty much to one 7900GS, which maxes out CSS.

One 8800GT would be sufficient.
post #3 of 15
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Well, I play other games as well... and some of the newer ones that are coming out, and recent ones I have purchased I have noticed a significant decrease in performance from the cards I have now... so the new build I want to do is not entirely based on upgrading the graphics card, rather upgrading to a faster computer in general
    
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Ok so here is what I have so far...

CPU : Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
MB : ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX
Memory : G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
V.Card : XFX PVT88PYDF4 GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 (may upgrade to SLi eventually but will use this to start)


I have a great case, power supply, hard drives and CDR / DVDR roms that i will use from my old system.

Please post some critiques and suggestions. Also, need to know a good CPU heatsink/fan. Not sure which ones are great, and also low profile.
    
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post #5 of 15
Get a Q6600 instead of the E6850. The Q6600 will be better if you plan on keeping this rig for a while. Also if you plan to SLi your going to need a 780i board. Again, I recommend this 4gb kit - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231145. For HS/F I would say a tuniq or a thermalright ultra extreme
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post #6 of 15
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Ok, ill take your advice on the CPU, it does seem like a reasonable change.

But as far as the motherboard, what is the advantage of the 780i???? Sorry, i am not familiar with that....

Also, is there a HS/F that is a little shorter in profile than the Tunig, that one seems a little to big
    
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Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB EVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 
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post #7 of 15
You've brought up a good debate: Q6600 or E6850?

I personally use the quad because I run a lot of Photoshop (multi-threaded) projects and I also multitask quite a bit. I have used the E6850 in a build and the E6750 and I think both are great values.

The E6850 gives you 3GHz right off the bat and they overclock quite well. I've read of 3.6-4.0 on air in some cases.

The quad will EASILY take a bump to 3.0 most likely with stock voltages. I got to 3.2 with a good motherboard and a slight bump in vCore voltage. Quads generally are harder to overclock and produce more heat.

From a gaming standpoint, newer games like Crysis, Supreme Commander, and COD4 will make use of all four cores while anything from the Valve came for example will not. I would imagine that with the growing popularity of quad-core processors, developers will feel more inclined to make their games multithreaded.

For SLi (and boy are some people going to disagree), I woudl skip it right from the get-go. Driver support isn't the best and in some cases (pre-patched Crysis), it can actually drop frames. I had 2 8800GTXs in SLi and I eventually moved on to an Intel chipset motherboard and sold one of the 8800's. I can't turn all the eye candy as high as I used to but I'm coping well The main reason I would avoid it right now is the fact SLi will chain you to an Nvidia chipset motherboard. The 680i was garbage (and I'll argue that until the cows come home) and although the 780i seems to be doing quite well for some, I can't stress enough the value of a mid-priced P35 motherboard. Gigabyte and DFI have very nice boards for a very reasonable price.

For coolers, if you're running near stock clocks/voltages, use the Intel stock cooler or maybe a Freezer7Pro of you absolutely can't stand the Intel. For additional cooling, look to the Thermalright 120 or the Tuniq Tower 120. I use the Tuniq and I love it!.
post #8 of 15
The tuniq is huge, but it is also very good.
    
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post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by Chucktrmpt View Post
Ok, ill take your advice on the CPU, it does seem like a reasonable change.

But as far as the motherboard, what is the advantage of the 780i???? Sorry, i am not familiar with that....

Also, is there a HS/F that is a little shorter in profile than the Tunig, that one seems a little to big
Advantage of 780i over 680i

-45nm Quad support
-PCIe 2.0 (well...sort of)
-1 additional PCIe x16

...and that's it.

Advantage of 780i over P35/X38

-45nm Quad support (P35)
-Tri-SLi capable

DISadvantage of 780i over P35/X38

-Hot-running chipsets
-Quad overclocking capability
-Feature to cost ratio (i.e. no external CMOS switch, not all solid caps, no eSATA, etc.)
-General overall stability and reliability
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by kingsnake2 View Post
The tuniq is huge, but it is also very good.
Agreed. Check for clearance before you buy if you are leaning toward the Tuniq
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