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Read the page. Buy.com has FREE SHIPPING.
Read my post. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THAT PSU. THERE'S NO NEED TO DISCUSS IT ANY FURTHER.
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lol wow, 750 watts! Talk about overkill! hehehehehe

I would never need it. But I'd love to buy it just for bragging rights. hahaha


As for my budget, that budget is "after shipping". It can't cost that much after shipping. But it looks like there's no PSU that I'd ever need for even $140 plus!
But apparently, all you saw was that I didn't notice that it has free shipping. But it should be obvious to anyone that I didn't CARE about the PSU in the FIRST place, and that I have absolutely no need for it!

The most I'll EVER need, given the way I use computers, is around 600 to 650 watts. And that's likely too high of an estimate.
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PC Power & Cooling 610 is a good PSU. This $114 Corsair 620HX is also very good.
This is a great one and I saw in the deals forum that if you use google checkout at Buy.com you get $20 off on a $80 dollar purchase.
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Only thing I wouldn't like about it is the lack of modular cabling. Otherwise it sounds like a great psu.
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Read my post. I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THAT PSU. THERE'S NO NEED TO DISCUSS IT ANY FURTHER.
But you failed to state a legit reason why.

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But apparently, all you saw was that I didn't notice that it has free shipping. But it should be obvious to anyone that I didn't CARE about the PSU in the FIRST place, and that I have absolutely no need for it!

The most I'll EVER need, given the way I use computers, is around 600 to 650 watts. And that's likely too high of an estimate.
Whoa... settle down buckaroo. I DID read your post and just assumed you weren't completely ignorant because you didn't give a reason as to WHY you wouldn't consider a higher capacity PSU when it's actually under budget. I honestly thought you didn't notice it was free shipping beacuse that really should be THE ONLY REASON to not consider the 750W over the 610W: If it cost more.

You do realize that a PSU only delivers whatever power is required of it, right? So if a PSU is larger than needed, it's not like it's going to cost you more on your electric bill. All things are equal between the 610 and the 750W: OEM, build quality, warranty... So really, why ISN'T the 750W a possibility? To buy less for more money just doesn't make sense to me which is why I didn't think anything of your post up until the point of "my budget is after shipping." "Just because it's more than you need" isn't a reason to exclude a good deal on a power supply.
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But you failed to state a legit reason why.
I didn't know I needed a legit reason. I figured my statements were sufficient so that people could say "oh, since he said what he said, he obviously has no uses for a PSU that powerful, so therefore it would be a complete waste of his money."
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Whoa... settle down buckaroo.
Settle down buckaroo? Can't you show me a little respect? If I were as "famous" as you, I'd be more careful with how I talk to other people.
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I DID read your post and just assumed you weren't completely ignorant because you didn't give a reason as to WHY you wouldn't consider a higher capacity PSU when it's actually under budget.
Hmm, I could have sworn that I said that "I would never need it". What more do you want? Should I give one of my really long posts describing something that can be said in just a couple of words?

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I honestly thought you didn't notice it was free shipping beacuse that really should be THE ONLY REASON to not consider the 750W over the 610W: If it cost more.
Well, I didn't notice the free shipping because quite frankly, I didn't care. As soon as I saw "750W", I said "I'll never need it, so therefore it's a waste of money.", and I immediately closed the tab.

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You do realize that a PSU only delivers whatever power is required of it, right?
Yep. I either read that on NewEgg in the Learning Center, or somewhere on here.
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So really, why ISN'T the 750W a possibility?
I think this question is already thoroughly answered now.
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To buy less for more money just doesn't make sense to me which is why I didn't think anything of your post up until the point of "my budget is after shipping." "Just because it's more than you need" isn't a reason to exclude a good deal on a power supply.
That might be true, however, the bigger point is that it would use up my entire budget, and for what? A PSU that can provide much more power than I'll ever need? I would never need it! Ever! Like I said, the only reason I would buy it is to have bragging rights. The point was that other than that, it would be a total waste of my money to get something that powerful.

But why stop at 750? Why not recommend me a 1,000W PSU?

I'm telling you, I would never need it, and that should be a sufficient answer.

Just take my word for it.


But I will listen to you regarding the noise. I don't want it to be so loud that it sounds like a freakin' server room. And after looking at the 620HX, I'm thinking how perfect it might be for me, especially for the CM 690. That will pull cool air in from the bottom, and exhaust it out the back. Awesome. And it's only $114.99. Awesome. I didn't know I wasn't going to need my entire budget for such a PSU. But I'm still looking. After all, I have about 3 weeks.
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Whoa... settle down buckaroo. I DID read your post and just assumed you weren't completely ignorant because you didn't give a reason as to WHY you wouldn't consider a higher capacity PSU when it's actually under budget.
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Settle down buckaroo? Can't you show me a little respect? If I were as "famous" as you, I'd be more careful with how I talk to other people.
Lmao, cheese man maybe you should check your definition of respect, jonny here is trying to help you make the best psu decision. if you were buying a processor and your budget dictates that it has to be less that 100 are you going to buy the 2.6ghz dual core for $80? or are you going to buy the one for 3ghz dual core that costs 105 and is 95 after rebate? (not the best example but gets the point im trying to make across)

OT - go with the corsair 620hx much better deal in any case.
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post #17 of 43
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If he said "whoa, settle down buckaroo", how would you feel? Just because he's "Jonny Guru", it doesn't mean I should take any crap from him!

And as far as a CPU goes, of course I'm going to get the fastest one I can get. That's just how we buy CPU's. Who in their right mind would say "well, I don't need 3.2GHz. I only need 1.4GHz, so I'll go with that. lol no, go with the fastest the budget allows, and therefore you get the most satisfying performance possible. So yeah, not the best example, but it was extremely fun to think about. Mmm, speed.

But with a PSU, I'm never going to use that 750W it to its full potential, so I'd be absolutely stupid to buy it. It'd be a foolish waste of money. So yeah, of the two, the 620HX is a much wiser purchase.
post #18 of 43
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Originally Posted by 5CheeseLasagna View Post
I didn't know I needed a legit reason. I figured my statements were sufficient so that people could say "oh, since he said what he said, he obviously has no uses for a PSU that powerful, so therefore it would be a complete waste of his money."
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a legit reason for turning down someone's advice when you come to a forum looking for advice. What's a complete waste of money when it actually costs less? I'm still not getting this part.

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Settle down buckaroo? Can't you show me a little respect? If I were as "famous" as you, I'd be more careful with how I talk to other people.
I'll show you respect when you show me respect. THAT is how it works. Doesn't matter who I am or anyone else is here. You're the one that started flipping out, not me.

I simply reinforced that the 750W was a better buy, without any disrespect towards ANYONE, and you start accusing me of not reading your posts and using ALL CAPS TO CONVEY SOME SORT OF SUPERIORITY OR SOMETHING. I'm not a child, you shouldn't talk to me like I'm one.

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Hmm, I could have sworn that I said that "I would never need it". What more do you want? Should I give one of my really long posts describing something that can be said in just a couple of words?
That's fine. It's your money. But it seems to be throwing money away if you can get the same thing, more output capability, for less money. Don't want to go that route? Fine, don't. But don't go questioning my reading comprehension or USING ALL CAPS AS IF YOU HAVE TO SHOUT AT ME.

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That might be true, however, the bigger point is that it would use up my entire budget, and for what? A PSU that can provide much more power than I'll ever need? I would never need it! Ever! Like I said, the only reason I would buy it is to have bragging rights. The point was that other than that, it would be a total waste of my money to get something that powerful.

But why stop at 750? Why not recommend me a 1,000W PSU?

I'm telling you, I would never need it, and that should be a sufficient answer.

Just take my word for it.
If the 1000W was the same price or less.. then why not recommend the 1000W?

EDIT: Ok. Now I looked at the OP again I see where I got confused. I thought your "budget" was based on the price of the 610 + shipping. Now I see that the 610W is actually much less. So the extra money spent would be a waste. But I didn't see that before and it's still no excuse for using "ALL CAPS AS IF YOU HAVE TO YELL AT ME TO MAKE A POINT.
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I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a legit reason for turning down someone's advice when you come to a forum looking for advice. What's a complete waste of money when it actually costs less? I'm still not getting this part.
I saw your Edit. Thank you for finally taking the time to read every word of my post.
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I'll show you respect when you show me respect. THAT is how it works. Doesn't matter who I am or anyone else is here. You're the one that started flipping out, not me.
Oh really? That's how it works, huh? Wow, somebody thinks they're really important. Listen, Jonny. You're the one who started this, and I must admit, it was subtle. When you dissected my OP, you commented on the following, which to me, was the subtle start of this whole mess:
I mentioned in my 2nd point that it has one 12v rail @49A. You simply stated "Meaningless." Well thank you for that wonderful bit of information, and thank you for stating it in such a way that doesn't cut me down at all. You're a true professional. No wonder everyone likes you. lol So, WHY is it meaningless? And thanks for that nice choice of word there, Jonny. Good job.

Then you came to my 5th point, "It's made by PC Power & Cooling". You said "No it's not. It's made by Seasonic." Great. But why'd you have to say it like that? (Oh, I know, Jonny. "Like what?? I didn't say anything wrong!") Are you fed up with stupid people or something? Why couldn't you have just said something like, "But Seasonic physically makes their PSU's, so they're kinda like Corsair in that respect."

And then about point #7, I said "It has everything I need, plus a bit of headroom for the future." You said "Probably". How nice. Try taking my word for it. You haven't even asked what I'll be powering yet! How can you so arrogantly say "Probably"? lol

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I simply reinforced that the 750W was a better buy, without any disrespect towards ANYONE, and you start accusing me of not reading your posts and using ALL CAPS TO CONVEY SOME SORT OF SUPERIORITY OR SOMETHING. I'm not a child, you shouldn't talk to me like I'm one.
Well then you completely missed my point. I was throwing your "Read the page. Buy.com has FREE SHIPPING." right back in your face. I don't need to take that kind of crap from you just because of who you are. I'm not going to give you special treatment just because you're "jonnyGURU". lol I am glad that you have a lot of experience, and I'm glad I can learn from it, but I'm not about to give you special treatment just because of who you are. And if you don't want me talking to you like a child, then maybe you should've thought of that before you clicked "Submit Reply" with your "Read the page" comment. Come on, man. Figure it out. Nobody should put up with crap like that, even if it's barely anything at all. It's still crap! You've made a name for yourself, and you should protect it by giving people good customer service, not this kind of crap which clearly tells me that you're "sick and tired of dealing with idiots."

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That's fine. It's your money. But it seems to be throwing money away if you can get the same thing, more output capability, for less money.
I know I'm repeating myself, but I'm glad you finally read my OP. Now maybe we can get somewhere.
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Don't want to go that route? Fine, don't. But don't go questioning my reading comprehension or USING ALL CAPS AS IF YOU HAVE TO SHOUT AT ME.



If the 1000W was the same price or less.. then why not recommend the 1000W?

EDIT: Ok. Now I looked at the OP again I see where I got confused. I thought your "budget" was based on the price of the 610 + shipping. Now I see that the 610W is actually much less. So the extra money spent would be a waste. But I didn't see that before and it's still no excuse for using the old "reading comprehension for the win" excuse on me AND ALL CAPS AS IF YOU HAVE TO YELL AT ME TO MAKE A POINT.
See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. You said to me "Read the page", and here you are saying "Oh, I read the OP wrong." Sigh...

Now let's move forward. And can we please keep this on a professional level?
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Oh really? That's how it works, huh? Wow, somebody thinks they're really important. Listen, Jonny. You're the one who started this, and I must admit, it was subtle. When you dissected my OP, you commented on the following, which to me, was the subtle start of this whole mess:
I mentioned in my 2nd point that it has one 12v rail @49A. You simply stated "Meaningless." Well thank you for that wonderful bit of information, and thank you for stating it in such a way that doesn't cut me down at all. You're a true professional. No wonder everyone likes you. lol So, WHY is it meaningless? And thanks for that nice choice of word there, Jonny. Good job.
Well, I meant "meaningless" as in meaningless if you were talking one +12V vs. multiple. But 49A is good just the same. I can see how what I said could be mis-interpreted.

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Then you came to my 5th point, "It's made by PC Power & Cooling". You said "No it's not. It's made by Seasonic." Great. But why'd you have to say it like that? (Oh, I know, Jonny. "Like what?? I didn't say anything wrong!") Are you fed up with stupid people or something? Why couldn't you have just said something like, "But Seasonic physically makes their PSU's, so they're kinda like Corsair in that respect."
Umm... read what I said. "No it's not (made by PC Power & Cooling). It's made by Seasonic." How and why would you want to color that up any? There IS a common mis-conception that PCP&C make their own stuff. I just wanted to point out that it's Seasonic just like Corsair is.

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And then about point #7, I said "It has everything I need, plus a bit of headroom for the future." You said "Probably". How nice. Try taking my word for it. You haven't even asked what I'll be powering yet! How can you so arrogantly say "Probably"? lol
"Probably" is arrogant? Whatever. If we don't know what's to come from GPU companies in the future or what you plan to do in the future, how can anyone answer that question with anything more than "probably"?

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Well then you completely missed my point. I was throwing your "Read the page. Buy.com has FREE SHIPPING." right back in your face. I don't need to take that kind of crap from you just because of who you are. I'm not going to give you special treatment just because you're "jonnyGURU". lol I am glad that you have a lot of experience, and I'm glad I can learn from it, but I'm not about to give you special treatment just because of who you are. And if you don't want me talking to you like a child, then maybe you should've thought of that before you clicked "Submit Reply" with your "Read the page" comment. Come on, man. Figure it out. Nobody should put up with crap like that, even if it's barely anything at all. It's still crap! You've made a name for yourself, and you should protect it by giving people good customer service, not this kind of crap which clearly tells me that you're "sick and tired of dealing with idiots."
It sounds like you're the one with issues here. I don't care who you or anyone thinks I am; jonnyGURU or ****ing Bob the Builder. Do you think I get PAID to come to forums and help people out? If YOU asking for help really bothered me, I just wouldn't do it. You think I get some sort of kick out of going into threads and talking down to people? You're sick if you do. The only reason why I'm "famous" is because I quite often take time out to help people. Not because I take time out to put people down and make fun of them for being ignorant. I don't think that would get me very far. You seem to have taken "special time out" to call me out on, what I now admit as, an error in reading how and where your budget came from and the price on the 610W. I admit I misread the OP. This has been dragged out long enough. Let it die.

I don't expect to be treated differently than anyone else and I should be expected to make mistakes in what I read or even advise when I make posts. You seem to think I'm more "infamous" than I actually am and therefore be infallible. I thought your budget was based on the price of the 610W + shipping, which is more than the price of the 750W, you tell me to READ THE POST and are now trolling me to the end of the Earth. I'm just trying to help, but if you don't want my participation, hey... whatever. I'm out.
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