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i already did 2.0 and it did not blow up.
Soon...
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post #62 of 81
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Ok. Buddy. Sorry for the large font but you need to get it.

DO NOT GO ABOVE 1.5(5)V ON AIR, IF YOU GO ANYTHING ABOVE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO FRY YOUR CPU EVENTUALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not going to feel sorry for you when your CPU is dead.
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Ok. Buddy. Sorry for the large font but you need to get it.

DO NOT GO ABOVE 1.5(5)V ON AIR, IF YOU GO ANYTHING ABOVE THAT YOU ARE GOING TO FRY YOUR CPU EVENTUALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not going to feel sorry for you when your CPU is dead.

Do you understand what we are trying to say?
If you are on air and want your chip to last more than 2 days, bring the voltage down to 1.5v.
post #63 of 81
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Originally Posted by CrackClocker View Post
Alright i just got the Tuniq Tower from my friend and some delta fans, im going to slap on some ocz freeze and get this baby to 4ghz!!!
I doubt that cooling is what's holding you back--I was able to get 3.65GHz out of my e2180 on the stock cooler with 1.6v (yeah, yeah, yeah guys, I know, "OMG don't go over 1.55v! U will fry ur CPU!!!). It was just a "suicide run" to see if I was temp-limited or vcore-limited (to see if upgrading the cooler was even worth it). But 1.8v is a bit high, even for a suicide run... On the stock cooler with the fan on high, I only maxed out at just below 65C in orthos at 3.6GHz and 1.6v. But I absolutely needed 1.6v to get there. So dude, you might want to consider a couple things:

(1) You've hit the speed:voltage barrier, and you might need HUGE amounts of voltage to even go, say, 100MHz higher (keep in mind, as you go up in CPU speed, the voltage required increases exponentially).

(2) You might not need more voltage to go higher in CPU speed--have you tweaked your other voltages? (FSB, NB/SB/PCI). RAM timings?

(3) You might have hit your CPU's wall already, and dumping more VCORE into it won't get you higher at all.

(4) I doubt you can get this CPU to 4GHz--I'd like you to be able to, but it's VERY unlikely, regardless of what kind of air cooler you use...

(5) Just because temps are okay doesn't mean that the voltage you're duming into your CPU isn't dangerous--in addition to "frying" a cpu with too many volts, if you're constantly overvolting your CPU, you risk "electron migration" (look it up) which permanently damages your CPU, and is not dependent on or prevented by cool temps.

All in all, I think you've gotten as much out of this CPU as you can. Good thing you hit a decent OC consistent with most other people's CPU on a reasonable voltage. Check out the E1xxx/E2xxx thread for a database of current E1xxx and E2xxx users for what OC's they've gotten. Here it is: http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...on-thread.html

Hope it helps! And yeah...pull back on that vcore, lol!
    
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FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE! now i dont have to waste my money on a water cooler, oh and really really good link too thanks a ton! + rep
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FINALLY SOME GOOD ADVICE! now i dont have to waste my money on a water cooler
I think like 20 people told you to drop the vcore, and you're now listening?
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download speedfan that works it shows my temps well
    
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rofl, i didnt care about the vcore in the first place, i was wondering if it was worth it to go past 2.0vcore and that my chip would increase in speed, and if it could, i would get liquid cooling but now i understand there is no performance increase and that is all thanks to guyladouche and how is not getting a water cooler mean im going to drop the vcore????
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I think like 20 people told you to drop the vcore, and you're now listening?
But in all fairness, no one explained why...I think we all assume people here know what they're doing, but we all had to start learning somewhere--for someone that's still learning, yelling at him/her and telling him/her to drop the vcore isn't helpful without explaining why... It might be true, but it's not helpful...lol!
    
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So crackclocker, let me get this straight, you dont care about the Vcore? You've bought a cheap chip, you should be happy with getting 3.5Ghz out of that, you should be greatfull, my E6600 cost more and does not reach as high due to its crappy overclockability, infact I'm at 3.4Ghz 1.5V idle and 1.47V load, I know its safe to do 1.6V on my mobo since I've determined that its got a Vdroop of .5V I think, so 1.6V is actually 1.55V on mine and it cant even get 3.6Ghz on that.

Even with watercooling you will kill your CPU, do what everyone tells you and dont go over 1.55V. There is a phenomenon called electronmigration I think, and if I understand correctly, the electrons tunnel out of the internal pathways of the CPU causing permenant damage to the CPU, usually it takes a long time, but it seems higher voltages speed it up, so thats not helping, and not to mention the fact, 1.6V on water your CPU still wont last long.
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I am greatful, but i just wanted to experiment, I admit i did go to far with the vcore, i have heard of this electromigrationyou speak of and all this time my cpu has been at 1.325 vcore at 3.0ghz since the first time u guys told me to lower it, and the only time i did bring it back up was when i had the tuniq, but that was just carelessness.
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