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i wish this was true for me, then i'd be idling below my ambient
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I wonder if Core 2 desktop CPUs don't even have a Tj max at all, and the temps are raw from the DTS.. I am going to do this soon with my E4500 using several monitoring programs.
     
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ramenmeal View Post
i wish this was true for me, then i'd be idling below my ambient

You can't know if you are truly idling below the ambient unless you get a temp probe, and a really accurate one.

Everything messes up another thing. The only way this could be tested is with a surface temperature monitor (they're expensive).
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Just came up with another thermal testing idea from this thread, a different one from those done so far, in 1hr (probably more) I shall have results, as I am doing some work on my E4500 as I type this from the Pentium 630 rig.
     
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I found this info from intel
Quote:
In the event of a catastrophic cooling failure, the processor will
automatically shut down when the silicon has reached a temperature
approximately 20 °C above the maximum TC.
which means that is should shut down at 93.2C (73.2+20) actual temps. Take the average of the last readings of 111C and 123C that i got before it shut down, and you get 118C. subtract 118 by 21.8(Realtemp Tjunc 95 - Tcasemax73.2)= 96.2C, which is pretty darn close to the temp that its supposed to shut down at.
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Updated the original post with the info in the previous post
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This is what Intel says about the Mobile Core2Duo chips:

Section 5.1.3
http://download.intel.com/design/mob...s/31674505.pdf

"Regardless of enabling the automatic or on-demand modes, in the event of a catastrophic cooling failure, the processor will automatically shut down when the silicon has reached a temperature of approximately 125°C."

I think the last screen shot must have been very close to thermal shut down.

For the Desktop Core processors there is nothing written in stone in the Intel docs. I might have to go buy one of these cheapy processors tomorrow to do some proper testing with my IR thermometer.
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Can you post the source link of that info please.
     
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@ unclewebb you just missed my above post i think...lol, also, mobile CPU's are made to take more heat the desktop counterparts
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Nice test TSK
    
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