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Hey everyone, I found that to be interresting, for $5 you can order a portable little device that generates new combinations of 6 numbers every 30 seconds, people working in IT might have used them before to log into Windows, remote access and such... Well now, you can have it for your Paypal account, as soon as I have $5 to spend, I will buy it.
http://www.paypal.com/en_US/m/demo/d...itykey_us.html

AND before the flaming starts, I consider this gadget hardware
    
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Interesting, I wonder how Paypal knows what your security key is displaying.
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post #3 of 25
interesting,
Even though i dont use paypal that much, if its only 5 dollars it could be worth it
    
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Originally Posted by Arkanor View Post
Interesting, I wonder how Paypal knows what your security key is displaying.
most of these security keys work by using the same algorithm in both the key and the servers to generate the numbers based on the time.. something like that o_o
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post #5 of 25
My dad had one of these when he worked for intuit. He was high enough that if his pass was stolen there could be some serious problems lol.
    
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Yeah, my father had one too for access to the corporate mainframe from overseas, and I had one temporarily on an M&A thing I was working on at one point for the project server. Very nice from a security perspective, if somewhat overcomplicated for PayPal.
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post #7 of 25
It sounds good to me. I use paypal a lot. I think I'll get one.
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post #8 of 25
Hmmm.....I'm still confused as to how they know what is being displayed. If somebody could post a link to an explanation or explain it better I would greatly appreciate that!
Also, are these units unique? Like, if I lose mine, what do I do????
(I think I will get one)

Edit: Also, how do you navigate to that security video?
Edit#2: NM, you click security center at the top and there is a picture of the key at the bottom right of the next screen.
Edit#3: Ok, I got it! Thanks Emmanuel, now I'm out $5, lol!
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post #9 of 25
Looks similar to the RSA SecureID keyfob, but with PayPal/Verisign's name on it. Paypal bought Verisign sometime back, so I'm interested to see what else they come up with. I didn't realize that Verisign was getting into that niche. It is good for PayPal to do this, as one more layer of security protects everyone involved, not just the customer.
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post #10 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by bruestle2 View Post
Hmmm.....I'm still confused as to how they know what is being displayed.
The 6 digit code that you see on the token is generated using an algorithm that is exists in all tokens. The token also contains a clock and has a unique seed number. The current time and the unique seed are processed using the algorithm and produce the token code you see on the token. This is normally done 1 per minute. In this way a unique code is generated that appears to be random.

The server (Key Management server), that is online and conected to whatever system you are logging on to, also knows the time and it also knows the unique seed number of your token. So it uses the same algorithm to calculate the code that you should see on your token. If they match then you are authenticated.

This is a pretty secure authentication method. We call it 2 Factor Authentication (2FA). This is because you need to provide passcode (2 factor): pin and the code displayed on your token in order to do the authentication. The code on the security token would be changed every 30seconds/1 minute and expire after few years. The token can be hardware or software based token.

Hope this helps.
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