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Because there are no legal uses for BitTorrent.
Wrong again!...some schools use bit torrent apps to download updates quickly to 1000's of computers...so you cant say there is no legal use
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Wrong again!...some schools use bit torrent apps to download updates quickly to 1000's of computers...so you cant say there is no legal use
I think he was being sarcastic.
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Bandwidth hogs, lol There is no such thing as a bandwidth hog, we're using what we're paying them for. Unless everyone on your line is running BT at once you're not gonna notice any impact. Quit believing the nonsense comcast tells you. They're blatantly filtering content, which is unacceptable in any form.

At any rate, I believe ISPs are all thieves anyhow. They collect a nice $40 a month from millions of people who use maybe 1gb of bandwidth per month... You know, the people who don't use the internet for much more than email, bills, news, etc.
REP + for such a true comment.
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Wrong again!...some schools use bit torrent apps to download updates quickly to 1000's of computers...so you cant say there is no legal use
He was being sarcastic...hence the face. Anyways, the people PAID for the bandwidth and have every right to use it the way they want.
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Bandwidth hogs, lol There is no such thing as a bandwidth hog, we're using what we're paying them for. Unless everyone on your line is running BT at once you're not gonna notice any impact. Quit believing the nonsense comcast tells you. They're blatantly filtering content, which is unacceptable in any form.

At any rate, I believe ISPs are all thieves anyhow. They collect a nice $40 a month from millions of people who use maybe 1gb of bandwidth per month... You know, the people who don't use the internet for much more than email, bills, news, etc.
Keep telling yourself that, but it's true. Especially in places like an apartment building where lots of people are coming off of one small area. I've experienced it many, many times. And thanks for assuming I am being influenced by Comcast. Aside from the fact that I don't have Comcast, nor is it offered, I clearly stated that I would perfer programs themselves not be stopped, but if the end is the same it makes no difference. You need to read more closely.

I would also like to point out that there is a difference between throttling bandwidth a program uses it and filtering its use out altogether. Are they preventing people from using the program altogether, or just limiting how much bandwidth it can use? You are talking like this is censorship.

And you whining about the price of internet connectivity is rich, especially with you calling them thieves considering you are defending a program that is used in large part by thieves. No one forces anyone to buy the high-speed internet, and if all they do is the less bandwidth-intensive items there are surely cheaper options if they do not wish to spend the money so that point is moot.

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REP + for such a true comment.
Rep - for the reason stated above...

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He was being sarcastic...hence the face. Anyways, the people PAID for the bandwidth and have every right to use it the way they want.
Not when it interferes with others.
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Keep telling yourself that, but it's true. Especially in places like an apartment building where lots of people are coming off of one small area. I've experienced it many, many times. And thanks for assuming I am being influenced by Comcast. Aside from the fact that I don't have Comcast, nor is it offered, I clearly stated that I would perfer programs themselves not be stopped, but if the end is the same it makes no difference. You need to read more closely.
So you're a supporter of censorship? That's where this whole thing is going to lead to if it goes unchecked.

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I would also like to point out that there is a difference between throttling bandwidth a program uses it and filtering its use out altogether. Are they preventing people from using the program altogether, or just limiting how much bandwidth it can use? You are talking like this is censorship.
In my eyes, there's hardly a difference between painfully slow and complete prevention. They have in fact cut off half the functionality of the program anyway, many people are unable to seed. I'm paying for this bandwidth, I'll be damned to hell if I'm gonna let a company tell me how to use it. And as I've just said, crap like this is just getting us one step closer to censorship. Give them no room to tread over your rights.

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And you whining about the price of internet connectivity is rich, especially with you calling them thieves considering you are defending a program that is used in large part by thieves. No one forces anyone to buy the high-speed internet, and if all they do is the less bandwidth-intensive items there are surely cheaper options if they do not wish to spend the money so that point is moot.
Guns are used to commit crimes, we better start outlawing them... There's an equally ridiculous comparison for you. Just like guns, there are plenty of legal uses for bit torrent. If people choose to misuse it, that's their problem, and they'll face the consequences if they get caught. But one thing is for sure, ISPs have absolutely no right to alter content in any form.

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Not when it interferes with others.
Then that's the ISPs fault; not mine. If their system can't handle people using the services they paid for, they have no right to be advertising it as such.
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The FCC board members are just upset their access to the TPB music section was made useless. Thats my theory anyways.
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as of less than an hour ago. i am officially not a comcast customer. my boxes/modem are returned. and the line is being deactivated..

the guy i told to cancel it. was like.. "your going to believe we filled seats based on a random web page?"

im like. "open google, type "fcc.com comcast" click first result"

he about crapped his pants.. and had to go speak to his manager...

was perfectly
    
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So you're a supporter of censorship? That's where this whole thing is going to lead to if it goes unchecked.


In my eyes, there's hardly a difference between painfully slow and complete prevention. They have in fact cut off half the functionality of the program anyway, many people are unable to seed. I'm paying for this bandwidth, I'll be damned to hell if I'm gonna let a company tell me how to use it. And as I've just said, crap like this is just getting us one step closer to censorship. Give them no room to tread over your rights.


Guns are used to commit crimes, we better start outlawing them... There's an equally ridiculous comparison for you. Just like guns, there are plenty of legal uses for bit torrent. If people choose to misuse it, that's their problem, and they'll face the consequences if they get caught. But one thing is for sure, ISPs have absolutely no right to alter content in any form.


Then that's the ISPs fault; not mine. If their system can't handle people using the services they paid for, they have no right to be advertising it as such.
The lot of the arguments and analogies in this post are so completely useless and full of paranoid dellusions that it is hard to bother resopnding to the rest. You should go back to your padded room and turn on Alex Jones so you can have at least one companion as nuts as you are about everyone and everything being an evil conspiracy to make a police state.

While you're there, you should brush up on your reading comprehension skills because I've repeatedly said this isn't about whether BitTorrent is being used illegally with regards to my opinion on throtteling its use (and this is the second time that I've said that I've repeatedly said something, specifically aimed at you, which makes it even worse!). I've merely pointed out that a significant portion of its use is devoted to illegal acts.

Just because you are paying for something doesn't mean it gives you the right to use it when it is detrimental to others' use of it, or detrimental to others in general. That is quite the superiority complex you have in that argument.

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as of less than an hour ago. i am officially not a comcast customer. my boxes/modem are returned. and the line is being deactivated..

the guy i told to cancel it. was like.. "your going to believe we filled seats based on a random web page?"

im like. "open google, type "fcc.com comcast" click first result"

he about crapped his pants.. and had to go speak to his manager...

was perfectly
It is nice to see people stand up for what they believe in, and it is sad that many people don't know the actions of the company for which they work. Do you have an alternative source of high-speed internet?

Also, did the guy ask you why you are stopping service or did you just offer him your complaints?
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Exactly.

If your pirating is screwing up my bandwidth then your usage should be throttled. The fact that Comcast lied about it being done is the only thing they should be punished for.
i just downloaded a few versions of linux to try out, should my bandwidth be throttled?
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