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I'll have to disagree with the article's mention of DX10 being a considerable performance impact.

My system is 2FPS slower in DX10, some setups even run faster in DX10.

Here's a thread comparing the two on many systems.
Saying DX10 is a drag on performance is like saying a 24" monitor is not as good as a 20" monitor because it takes up more desk space.
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I am a lonely computer geek surrounded by tons of barely computer literate people who think they are experts. The type of people who will argue with you about computers while you are installing their webcam, because they aren't smart enough to do it themselves.

And you know what the #1 reason why they hate Windows in general? Stupid third party crapware. I am often asked to fix computers because they have a virus because that **** windows is always screwing up. All I ever do is uninstall their moving 3d background, all eight of their animated screensavers, the four programs that turn their mouse into a horse, the flashing pink and silver start menu, and the rest of the crap they thought was cool but was making their $300 dell run at 80% idle. Then I defrag, and presto 100x faster.

It doesn't matter how many times you explain that it is THEIR fault the computer ran slow, they will junk it up again and blame windows.
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I am a lonely computer geek surrounded by tons of barely computer literate people who think they are experts. The type of people who will argue with you about computers while you are installing their webcam, because they aren't smart enough to do it themselves.

And you know what the #1 reason why they hate Windows in general? Stupid third party crapware. I am often asked to fix computers because they have a virus because that **** windows is always screwing up. All I ever do is uninstall their moving 3d background, all eight of their animated screensavers, the four programs that turn their mouse into a horse, the flashing pink and silver start menu, and the rest of the crap they thought was cool but was making their $300 dell run at 80% idle. Then I defrag, and presto 100x faster.

It doesn't matter how many times you explain that it is THEIR fault the computer ran slow, they will junk it up again and blame windows.
So true.
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post #34 of 42
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I am a lonely computer geek surrounded by tons of barely computer literate people who think they are experts. The type of people who will argue with you about computers while you are installing their webcam, because they aren't smart enough to do it themselves.

And you know what the #1 reason why they hate Windows in general? Stupid third party crapware. I am often asked to fix computers because they have a virus because that **** windows is always screwing up. All I ever do is uninstall their moving 3d background, all eight of their animated screensavers, the four programs that turn their mouse into a horse, the flashing pink and silver start menu, and the rest of the crap they thought was cool but was making their $300 dell run at 80% idle. Then I defrag, and presto 100x faster.

It doesn't matter how many times you explain that it is THEIR fault the computer ran slow, they will junk it up again and blame windows.
I will agree with you in part; however, do you think that a PC running Vista @ optimal settings can be faster or a more sophisticated design than Linux? Don't get me wrong i am not *****ing off Windows, i actualy love them and i pay my hard-earned money to Microsoft to run two operating systems, but still that is not stopping me from admitting, after a thorough examination (of current Linux platforms) and years of use of both Windows and Linux, that Windows is not the best operating system. It is just the most supported one. From an architectural point of view, Windows is left behind...well it has always been...and the new distros from Linux clearly demonstrate the potential of Linux systems.
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I will agree with you in part; however, do you think that a PC running Vista @ optimal settings can be faster or a more sophisticated design than Linux? Don't get me wrong i am not *****ing off Windows, i actualy love them and i pay my hard-earned money to Microsoft to run two operating systems, but still that is not stopping me from admitting, after a thorough examination (of current Linux platforms) and years of use of both Windows and Linux, that Windows is not the best operating system. It is just the most supported one. From an architectural point of view, Windows is left behind...well it has always been...and the new distros from Linux clearly demonstrate the potential of Linux systems.
Isn't support part of the quality of an OS?
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post #36 of 42
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Because Aero is rendered on the GPU and not the CPU (like previous Windows GUI's) it reduces the CPU load and increases desktop performance.
So I'm guessing you're talking about XP vs vista, increasing performance when dealing with eye candy. I can understand that, but XP doesn't have the eye candy to do an apples-to-apples comparison anyway.

I thought you were talking about a system running better with aero on instead of off... That's why I questioned that point.

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It has been two years since i last used Linux and i have to admit developers have taken a giant leap forward, especially with those Aero, Cube and whatever one may imagine 3D-Desktop effects! It took me a while and a few distro-changes to find the right one for my system but old SUSE never disappoints me.
Needless to say that i honestly prefer the GUI to Vista....and i am a big Vista fan!!
Suse was my first Linux. I started off with it using a live disk, 9.2. I actually bought 10.0 when it came out for $40 (I had 56k back then, ok...). I was kinda disappointed because I was expecting it to be windows. Well, I tried Linux on and off since then and got back into it late last year. I eventually came back to Suse, and I found 10.3 to be much improved since 10.0. I came back to my roots

Suse is really a great OS. It's a bit harder, but also a bit more powerful. I look forward to 11.0

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Isn't support part of the quality of an OS?
No, it's completely external. But it definitely plays a part in the OS's usability.

You can have a damn nice car with all the good stuff inside. But say no one made stuff for it. The crappy car would have better support and be easier to use and all, but that expensive car would still be a better car. Probably a bad example. But I'm just trying to say that just because all these 3rd parties support windows doesn't mean that the OS itself is better.
post #37 of 42
Vista isn't as bad as I thought, but the whole "allow program" popup I get every time I press a frickin button is enough to make me want to stab bill gates in the throat with a pen.
post #38 of 42
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So I'm guessing you're talking about XP vs vista, increasing performance when dealing with eye candy. I can understand that, but XP doesn't have the eye candy to do an apples-to-apples comparison anyway.

I thought you were talking about a system running better with aero on instead of off... That's why I questioned that point.



Suse was my first Linux. I started off with it using a live disk, 9.2. I actually bought 10.0 when it came out for $40 (I had 56k back then, ok...). I was kinda disappointed because I was expecting it to be windows. Well, I tried Linux on and off since then and got back into it late last year. I eventually came back to Suse, and I found 10.3 to be much improved since 10.0. I came back to my roots

Suse is really a great OS. It's a bit harder, but also a bit more powerful. I look forward to 11.0



No, it's completely external. But it definitely plays a part in the OS's usability.

You can have a damn nice car with all the good stuff inside. But say no one made stuff for it. The crappy car would have better support and be easier to use and all, but that expensive car would still be a better car. Probably a bad example. But I'm just trying to say that just because all these 3rd parties support windows doesn't mean that the OS itself is better.
No, Aero is faster than the non-Aero and XP GUI. Because the GUI is rendered at the hardware level and not the software level like the plain GUI and XP GUI, it performs much better. It is also more stable.
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post #39 of 42
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Vista isn't as bad as I thought, but the whole "allow program" popup I get every time I press a frickin button is enough to make me want to stab bill gates in the throat with a pen.
As if your in a administrator account your still a limited until you click that.
Vista makes everyone a limted even administrators.

One mistake XP made was make everyone a Administrator.
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It actually takes more time to calculate the amount of time to transfer something than to actually transfer it. computer longer to calculate how long the 3 MB file will take to transfer than to actually transfer the file. .:rolleyes :
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