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[/B]- Excellent for handling big loads, running lots of stuff in the background while gaming.
- Very fast and smooth encoding, compressing, uncompressing etc.
These are the reasons why I got the 6600. I always have about 80 processes going, even after pruning, as I MUST get email from my boss while tweaking crysis (it's nice to work at home!). Also, for all the constant ripping, unrarring, and all other errands of the high seas sailor, this chip is the bomb.

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Cons
- Nowhere near as much FPS for gaming compared to the 45nm CPU's
- Bottlenecks the 9800GX2 unless you can achieve +3.8ghz
- Rarely can reach 3.7Ghz on good air
- 300w power consumption on load
- Very hot CPU, doing prime at 3.5ghz you're looking at 66c-70c on good air
Hmmm... I do prime at 53C at 3.6. I fold 24/7 at 58C at the warmest, also at 3.6. And this is with my monstrous lian-li, which for all its size has pretty poor airflow based on a build I did last night with an Antec case and a tuniq tower. I got the Antec q6600 up to 3.6Ghz, 1.46V with an idle of 28C! I wish I could tell you loads, but we haven't received the microsoft approved Vista64 disk yet (it's a "customer" build for my small side gig). I don't care about power consumption or air "whooossh!"; I use headphones and wife pays the power bill (I pay rent).

Does it really bottleneck the gx2 though? How significantly? That's my biggest concern, though I wouldn't probably switch CPUs at this point, especially since I don't even have a gx2 (but was thinking of getting one this week after selling my 8800GT sli, if it was feasible).
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My Q6600 at 3.6 never exceeded 52C on any of the cores under prime or orthos.
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E8400 > Q9300 > Q6600

Buy the E8400. Quads are more multitaking but nothing supports it.

a fast dual-core will give you real-world performance and FPS.

by the time everything including games supports quad-core, q6600 and q9300 will be obsolete and newer quads will have emerged.
     
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this thread could have really used a poll, just for easier tally of everyones vote. I haven't used either so I have no opinion but I enjoyed reading the great debate!
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Abilor, according to a few people around here the CPU won't be a bottleneck, at least not that particular CPU.

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/3099...ml#post3590675

See the post right after it as well.

In the same thread:

http://www.overclock.net/nvidia/3099...ml#post3590758

Thanks to mhill2029 for the answer. (and + rep for the explanation).
    
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These are the reasons why I got the 6600. I always have about 80 processes going, even after pruning, as I MUST get email from my boss while tweaking crysis (it's nice to work at home!). Also, for all the constant ripping, unrarring, and all other errands of the high seas sailor, this chip is the bomb.



Hmmm... I do prime at 53C at 3.6. I fold 24/7 at 58C at the warmest, also at 3.6. And this is with my monstrous lian-li, which for all its size has pretty poor airflow based on a build I did last night with an Antec case and a tuniq tower. I got the Antec q6600 up to 3.6Ghz, 1.46V with an idle of 28C! I wish I could tell you loads, but we haven't received the microsoft approved Vista64 disk yet (it's a "customer" build for my small side gig). I don't care about power consumption or air "whooossh!"; I use headphones and wife pays the power bill (I pay rent).

Does it really bottleneck the gx2 though? How significantly? That's my biggest concern, though I wouldn't probably switch CPUs at this point, especially since I don't even have a gx2 (but was thinking of getting one this week after selling my 8800GT sli, if it was feasible).
It does bottleneck the GX2.

I couldn't figure out why, but at first, benchmarking 3dmark06 with a q6600 G0 and my GX2, I lost over 1000 points for sm 2.0 and sm 3.0 HDR.

This is because most games only use one thread, or two at the most. Thus, one core at 3.6ghz is like an e6600 at 3.6ghz.

e6600 3.6ghz and a GX2 is pointless.

I tried my G0 at 3.5,up to 3.8ghz and benched and it was nothing close to my e8400 at 4.3ghz.
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I tried my G0 at 3.5,up to 3.8ghz and benched and it was nothing close to my e8400 at 4.3ghz.
How much exactly did you gain in 3dmark06 going from a q6600 to e8400 at those clocks?
    
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Well Ive looked at this thread dozens of times so I figured I'd take a few whacks at the dead horse...

For me its a personal choice, the E8400 @ 4.0 isnt going to run many games that much faster than a Q6600 @ 3.2. Just like games "arent utilizing" 4 core, they are not set up for 4.0GHz cpu's either. We are talking a minimal FPS gain in 80% of the games.

As for nothing utilizing 4 cores, thats a bit off the truth. While nothing is set up to run on only quad core cpu's, that does not mean it wont utilize it..

If your surfin the web, reading forums, playing games and lookin at porn, than a quad core may not be for you.

However, if you run system hungry apps, and understand what "set affinity" means, than a Q will beat an E hands down, just the facts. Windows runs the quad, and utilizes all 4 cores, you can see it in any cpu activity chart, everything else runs on windows, games, apps, whatever, is set up to run on windows, not on a cpu, windows will use the cores accordingly.

Crysis is the most cpu hungry game I play at the moment, and if i look at the cpu usage during the game, all 4 cores are being used, and thats the same in every game ive played, so if they arent "utilizing" 4 cores, it sure looks like they are using them...

the only question one needs to ask themselves is "do i want 4 cores @ 3.2 or 2 cores @ 4.0"
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post #79 of 89
I run 3DMark06 and got 11588 score, where with my previous setup(Striker Extreme 680i with Q6600) in stock i got 11450 score.
So in stock the is not much difference betwen those chips in 3DMark06 tests.
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Once again I'll state that I have BOTH processors and have used both of them.

the e8400 is faster in gaming, and I got mine stable at 4.32Ghz which will defeat any Q unless you can get the Q past 3.8ghz.

I gained 1000points in sm 2.0 and sm 3.0 HDR in 3dmark06 going back to my e8400.

the Q scores higher cpu marks than the e8400 only because of the cpu tests but for the single or dual threaded tests, the Q looses.

Once again, Stating that I have owned both processors and I am a very serious gamer, I chose my e8400 over the Q.

E8400 FTW.

But hey, if you want to run lots of thingsi in the background and loose about 20 fps on a primitive processor, well that's the true question
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