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Funk, do the police get to keep theirs?
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3 posts in a row all in the same hour. Multi Quote is your friend......
LoL, MultiQuote, in fact, hates me. We haven't been friends since 2003 and i deleted that bastard from my fav 5!
    
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let's blame video games again shall we?
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post #144 of 182
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You need a lesson in the castle doctrine.
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The occupant(s) of the home must reasonably believe that the intruder intends to inflict serious bodily harm, or death, upon an occupant of the home
While these conditions can be interpreted in different ways by different judges, if an unarmed thief breaks into your home, you have a moral obligation to try not to kill him for his intrusion, regardless of how much a scum bag he might be. If you are threatened, then by any means necessary, defend yourself. But use judgment and common sense before you decide to pull that trigger. Just because you are legally able to, doesn't mean you should. These scum bags are people as well. Who knows, after they're held at gunpoint for 15 mins pissing their pants until the cops arrest them maybe they'll decide to make up for their pitiful past...

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While these conditions can be interpreted in different ways by different judges, if an unarmed thief breaks into your home, you have a moral obligation to try not to kill him for his intrusion, regardless of how much a scum bag he might be. If you are threatened, then by any means necessary, defend yourself. But use judgment and common sense before you decide to pull that trigger. Just because you are legally able to, doesn't mean you should. These scum bags are people as well. Who knows, after they're held at gunpoint for 15 mins pissing their pants until the cops arrest them maybe they'll decide to make up for their pitiful past...

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Utilitarianism
There is no way of knowing whether they are armed or not. I sure won't be waiting to be attacked to figure that out. As soon as they hear my shotgun being pumped and they are still in my house, they are a threat to my life.
post #146 of 182
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It is not in the least bit the issue of him getting a firearm, but it is an issue of him not knowing how to use the firearm that is the problem.

The bad parenting is that his parents did no teach him proper safety with the firearm.

I knew by the time I was 5 that if I saw a firearm of any sort I should leave it alone.
In more cases than not, it's best to keep the weapon in a very well hidden location, unloaded, with a trigger lock. Even better is to have it in a pistol safe.
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post #147 of 182
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That's just ignorant. Guns are pretty, shiny things that make loud noises and put holes in things.

Seriously though, not all gun owners are gangsters.
I don't believe I ever said all gun owners are "gangsters".

What I DID say:
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Guns are merely a medium through which violence and hateful acts are performed, but let's not kid ourselves that guns serve more than one purpose.
That's the simple fact. The difference between a gun and a knife, explosive, automobile, or anything else that could be used with deadly purpose is that guns were created for one sole undeniable reason: to kill, maim, or incapacitate a living creature. Knives, explosives, and other items that are highly lethal differ because they can serve a purpose that is useful and progressive to the advancement and/or ease of the human race. Oh, you could argue that guns serve another purpose such as collecting or sport shooting, but neither outweigh the negative of a gun's use for lethal purposes. Allowing something to exist only to exist is pointless, and sport shooting would just increase the likelihood of a whacko getting a gun under the guise of recreational use and shooting up a mall or some other public place.

But the problem in itself can't be blamed on guns or any other lethal device. The disease lies within the minds of people that believe it is not only acceptable, but actually preach and relish the ability to kill another human being because they don't agree on religion, politics, values, or any other personal opinion, or because that person has something they want. Outright banning guns in their entirety won't solve anything when you have entire societies and culture that exult the killing of people they feel are threatening to their way of life.

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I use firearms to procure sustenance.
That still falls under the use of violence. Killing an animal with a gun is just committing violence against them, although in your circumstances and others like yours, it is a necessary violence. (No, I'm not a member of PETA or any other animal rights group. I love barbecue ribs too much.)
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I don't believe I ever said all gun owners are "gangsters".

What I DID say:


That's the simple fact. The difference between a gun and a knife, explosive, automobile, or anything else that could be used with deadly purpose is that guns were created for one sole undeniable reason: to kill, maim, or incapacitate a living creature. Knives, explosives, and other items that are highly lethal differ because they can serve a purpose that is useful and progressive to the advancement and/or ease of the human race. Oh, you could argue that guns serve another purpose such as collecting or sport shooting, but neither outweigh the negative of a gun's use for lethal purposes. Allowing something to exist only to exist is pointless, and sport shooting would just increase the likelihood of a whacko getting a gun under the guise of recreational use and shooting up a mall or some other public place.

But the problem in itself can't be blamed on guns or any other lethal device. The disease lies within the minds of people that believe it is not only acceptable, but actually preach and relish the ability to kill another human being because they don't agree on religion, politics, values, or any other personal opinion, or because that person has something they want. Outright banning guns in their entirety won't solve anything when you have entire societies and culture that exult the killing of people they feel are threatening to their way of life.



That still falls under the use of violence. Killing an animal with a gun is just committing violence against them, although in your circumstances and others like yours, it is a necessary violence. (No, I'm not a member of PETA or any other animal rights group. I love barbecue ribs too much.)
You certainly have a right to your opinion.
Regarding your opinion of guns, where would "self defense" rank in "useful purpose"?
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I was actually more curious how the kid got the gun. Now THAT is some bad parenting.
thats the only constant in every single one of these type of cases. horrible parents. it amazes me everyday when i see how little some ppl care about thier children.
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You certainly have a right to your opinion.
Regarding your opinion of guns, where would "self defense" rank in "useful purpose"?
Unless someone is being threatened with a gun, there are other methods to defend yourself. If someone threatens you with a knife, zap em with a taser, or hit them with a bat, or threaten them with a bigger knife. A taser is actually something I try to suggest for people who want self defense but not the liability and/or risk involved with a firearm. Plus, a taser is just like a gun in that the physical differences between attacker and victim are negligible when you're dealing with the pulling of a trigger.

However, like I said before, if you're being threatened with a gun, then obviously the point is nil since there are still people utilizing guns for violent and hateful purposes, at which point you come back at them with whatever you feel necessary to defend your personal well-being.
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