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Originally Posted by ChiliCheeseFritos View Post
How about 5 people in a row state the exact same thing and correct me?

My F'ing bad. I should have read more carefully. It does not take 5 people saying the exact same thing for me to understand that....
we probably all 5 caught it and typed it at the same time and didn't know the other 4 were typing it also

don't flip out
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we probably all 5 caught it and typed it at the same time and didn't know the other 4 were typing it also

don't flip out
I am not flipping out. I am just sick of seeing that across these forums. When someone makes a mistake there is at least a handful of people that type the EXACT same thing.

Often times, like this incident, the posts are timed out and were not done at the same time. Therefore, the theory of people posting at the same time does not apply.
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I don't know the timing of the posts, I open multiple threads and start reading and closing and responding as I get to them
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I don't know the timing of the posts, I open multiple threads and start reading and closing and responding as I get to them
Well, I was not flipping out. Just stating that I am sick of seeing regulars pounce on someone for the first mistake they find that night. It says "X Minutes Ago" in the top left of every post. That is how I know the timing. The Irony is that they posted the exact same thing about me not reading the OP, when they did not read the post before theirs..

Anyways, I am done and will only respond about the topic of the thread. No more hi-jackage by me. Sorry to the OP.
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I don't know the timing of the posts, I open multiple threads and start reading and closing and responding as I get to them
Same... I just middle-click on all interesting topics and reply one-by-one... Then I look to see if more interesting topics top the list, open them all up in tabs, answer them one-by-one, rinse and repeat.
post #26 of 33
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Next story:
Japan Bans Personal Wireless Networks
Next Story: French-style revolts after the Japanese realize they can't use their DS's, Wiis, or PS3s online.


I'm not sure how the Japanese government will react to this, but I know the US government would rule it unconstitutional and most likely fine the ISPs. File sharing is not illegal, there is nothing wrong with say recording a home movie and sending it to a family member, or downloading something opensource like OpenOffice or a linux distro. In fact many major companies are moving to filesharing(torrents) rather than traditional http or ftp because it improves speeds and reduces bandwidth. Just because it can be used illegally doesn't mean it needs to be banned.

These ISPs are basically setting themselves up bankruptcy, when they start banning people, and the word gets out all it will take will be for some enterprising new company to offer unrestricted internet access for there to be a mass migration.

Although it is Japan, so you can never really trust them to be rational.
    
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But Winny is already dead, the majority of Japanese P2Pers have already moved on to Share and Perfect Dark.

Maybe they just didn't report they'll also be going after other programs, but this is about as effective as beating on a dead horse.

Anyway, Share and Perfect Dark are based around the idea of "if everybody do it, it's okay". It's sort of like BitTorrent in that that everybody distribute a small part of it, but not really.
The idea is that if each user that participates in the distribution of a file only uploads a small part of it to the rest, then the source is that much harder to find.
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True, and I'm hoping that they're talking about illegal file sharers. Hopefully they don't ban ALL file sharers as the article seems to hint at. For a while I was trying out a few Linux distros and getting them off P2P meant about a 75% cut in download time. To get rid of that kind of behaviour would be terrible.
I don't think they can tell the difference between me downloading a Linux distro on P2P or me downloading a movie.


Too bad lots of people use HTTP and FTP links for downloads, whats next?

"Japan bans rapidshare and megaupload!"
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The ISPs all got together and decided to do this. Because of this, it is possible some legal stuff will be passed in Japan where they have to stop doing this. However, I highly doubt they would unless it intrudes on the rights of legal programs. Also, I do not know what constitutes a "right" in Japan.

As said above, these companies are asking for bankruptcy in the future. Sure, they get to save money now because they don't have to upgrade their networks, however in the future when another ISP springs up, a large number of people will switch over. (Especially since Japan is one of the leading countries in technology, there should be a large number of people who don't like what is happening)
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Next Story: French-style revolts after the Japanese realize they can't use their DS's, Wiis, or PS3s online.


I'm not sure how the Japanese government will react to this, but I know the US government would rule it unconstitutional and most likely fine the ISPs. File sharing is not illegal, there is nothing wrong with say recording a home movie and sending it to a family member, or downloading something opensource like OpenOffice or a linux distro. In fact many major companies are moving to filesharing(torrents) rather than traditional http or ftp because it improves speeds and reduces bandwidth. Just because it can be used illegally doesn't mean it needs to be banned.

These ISPs are basically setting themselves up bankruptcy, when they start banning people, and the word gets out all it will take will be for some enterprising new company to offer unrestricted internet access for there to be a mass migration.

Although it is Japan, so you can never really trust them to be rational.

Except no one uses P2P to share home movies. 99% of people that use P2P use it for piracy and that's about it.
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