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room temperature is in the 22-24c range at all times.

so based on all of my temperature readings, would a faulty sensor seem like the most likely scenario? Is the speedfan ambient accurate? More frustrating that anything is that my proc ran at 47c idle @ auto voltage stock speeds with the intel hs/f. Auto voltage on the DS3L put the voltage at 1.184 in cpu-z, which is exactly what it is at now @ 3.6 ghz. How can I be getting the same exact temps with a supposedly solid aftermarket cooling solution...? I'm going to try one more thing on the reseat, any ideas in the meantime would be appreciated. you guys have been a big help so far, thanks.
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room temperature is in the 22-24c range at all times.

so based on all of my temperature readings, would a faulty sensor seem like the most likely scenario? Is the speedfan ambient accurate? More frustrating that anything is that my proc ran at 47c idle @ auto voltage stock speeds with the intel hs/f. Auto voltage on the DS3L put the voltage at 1.184 in cpu-z, which is exactly what it is at now @ 3.6 ghz. How can I be getting the same exact temps with a supposedly solid aftermarket cooling solution...? I'm going to try one more thing on the reseat, any ideas in the meantime would be appreciated. you guys have been a big help so far, thanks.
Your ambient temps aren't outrageous and if you followed AS5 application instructions correctly (not saying you didn't ) then a mis calibrated sensor is a possibility. Can't say with 100% certainty though.
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room temperature is in the 22-24c range at all times.

so based on all of my temperature readings, would a faulty sensor seem like the most likely scenario? Is the speedfan ambient accurate? More frustrating that anything is that my proc ran at 47c idle @ auto voltage stock speeds with the intel hs/f. Auto voltage on the DS3L put the voltage at 1.184 in cpu-z, which is exactly what it is at now @ 3.6 ghz. How can I be getting the same exact temps with a supposedly solid aftermarket cooling solution...? I'm going to try one more thing on the reseat, any ideas in the meantime would be appreciated. you guys have been a big help so far, thanks.
I just noticed you have a E8400. I thought it was a E4400.

And the E8400 temperature sensors are a bit weird (there are a ton of threads on this). Temperature on those CPUs won't be an issue. As long as your vcore is below the limits, you'll be fine. It's theoretically not possible to reach max temps before your vcore hits the limits.
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I read a lot about it, and while I am trying with every ounce of my being to believe that temps don't really matter on the wolfdale, 10 years of temperature control shoved down my throat seems to keep me from accepting it as truth. I've pushed it as far as 1.36v at 4.1 ghz, and load temps hit 69-70c. I touched a heatpipe during the stress test and it felt barely above room temperature, not nearly as hot at the HS on my NB (fanless at the time). So each step i take, each article I read, leads me to believe it's a miscalibrated sensor, but in the back of my head the whole time I'm thinking... maybe I did something so universally stupid that no one would even bring it up here, LOL.

I payed a fair penny for this processor, and had I done my research pre-purchase vs. post, I could have done a rma and none of this would matter, but such is life... I just want to make sure that this build will last me for a while. I could care less about getting that extra frame in crysis, or getting under 10 seconds in superpi 1M, I just want a solid rig that runs cool and quiet that MAYBE at a later time I could push to extend it's shelf life. I figure the more I learn now the more prepared I'll be at that time... Anyways, feel free to post suggestions or ideas, and thanks so much for the help.
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I read a lot about it, and while I am trying with every ounce of my being to believe that temps don't really matter on the wolfdale, 10 years of temperature control shoved down my throat seems to keep me from accepting it as truth. I've pushed it as far as 1.36v at 4.1 ghz, and load temps hit 69-70c. I touched a heatpipe during the stress test and it felt barely above room temperature, not nearly as hot at the HS on my NB (fanless at the time). So each step i take, each article I read, leads me to believe it's a miscalibrated sensor, but in the back of my head the whole time I'm thinking... maybe I did something so universally stupid that no one would even bring it up here, LOL.

I payed a fair penny for this processor, and had I done my research pre-purchase vs. post, I could have done a rma and none of this would matter, but such is life... I just want to make sure that this build will last me for a while. I could care less about getting that extra frame in crysis, or getting under 10 seconds in superpi 1M, I just want a solid rig that runs cool and quiet that MAYBE at a later time I could push to extend it's shelf life. I figure the more I learn now the more prepared I'll be at that time... Anyways, feel free to post suggestions or ideas, and thanks so much for the help.
While it is true that high temps will shorten the lifespan of a CPU over voltage can do so much more quickly. Also as one member stated above with 45nm chips you will hit max safe voltage (1.36 or 1.38 for the E8400 can't remember the exact number) long before temps come into play. There have actually been a few members here that have fried their E8400's due to using too much voltage and the temps were well within the safe range.
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post #16 of 26
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awesome thanks. final question. Let's say I want to push my wolfdale to 4050mhz, what voltage do I go by, the vcore in cpu-z, or the cpu voltage listed in my bios? I ask because setting the voltage at 1.25v in my bios results in a vcore of 1.184 according to cpu-z, 1.16 under load. Same thing with my memory. In order to have memory voltages read 2.22v I have to set my mem voltage to 2.4v in my bios.
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awesome thanks. final question. Let's say I want to push my wolfdale to 4050mhz, what voltage do I go by, the vcore in cpu-z, or the cpu voltage listed in my bios? I ask because setting the voltage at 1.25v in my bios results in a vcore of 1.184 according to cpu-z, 1.16 under load. Same thing with my memory. In order to have memory voltages read 2.22v I have to set my mem voltage to 2.4v in my bios.
I like to "play it safe" and go by BIOS settings myself.
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awesome thanks. final question. Let's say I want to push my wolfdale to 4050mhz, what voltage do I go by, the vcore in cpu-z, or the cpu voltage listed in my bios? I ask because setting the voltage at 1.25v in my bios results in a vcore of 1.184 according to cpu-z, 1.16 under load. Same thing with my memory. In order to have memory voltages read 2.22v I have to set my mem voltage to 2.4v in my bios.
This mobo has some vdroop from the bios. Actual vc should be in cpu-z.
I'm sure you already flashed to the F8a bios (for Wolfdales), if not, do it.
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the thing is, my memory is supposed to run at 1066 5-5-5-15-2T at 2.2v, but if I set it to 2.2v in the bios, i get memtest errors and BSOD in windows. If I set it to 2.3v in the bios, it registers as 2.16 in cpu-z and passes everything with no errors. So it sorta leads me to believe that the mobo vdrop/vdroop is lowering the voltage and I need to compensate accordingly. It's the same with setting it on auto voltage. the cpu is rated at 1.15v, yet on auto my mobo sets it at 1.184v (according to cpu-z), which is 1.25v in the bios. I mean I payed 80 bucks for it, so I guess I should expect these kind of things. The variances just seem a bit extreme, that's all...

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E8400's temp sensors are crap - We all know it and it is true

My cores are stuck at 70*C.... I clock it down to 2.0GHZ and its 70 load n idle, I clock it to 4.5ghz, it loads at 70....what ever man !

I just put it this way: you have a good cooler - you seated it well and properly, and you feel SOME heat after 20 minutes of load/stress....your fine
    
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