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I bought the E2160 just recently because of all the reviews saying this thing OCs like a fiend, which it does. I am just curious why I am not seeing the results most people are. Any advice would help. Could it be something to do with my RAM settings (I am not up to snuff on OC RAM). Or could it be I just received a bad OC die CPU?

Setup:
E2160 - stock 1.8 GHz (204 FSB) ----> Currently 2.835 GHz (315 FSB)
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Currently at 2.2 Volts 4:5 Ratio with FSB, 4-5-5-15 (have on auto except I manually moved to 2.2V).
MOBO: ABIT IP35-E with latest BIOS.

So far I have played with this many hours. If I go any higher than 310 on stock voltage, Windows (Vista 32 bit Ultimate) won't boot but the the BIOS does start fine.
Most people say they can slap in their FSB to 333 and change their RAM to be 800 and they are perfect on stock voltage and stock fan too. I am forced to raise my voltage just to hit 2.835??? I just raised it one, but my temperatures are already 33 degrees stock and 55 degrees while gaming. If I go higher on the voltage, I can reach 3.0 Ghz (~1.4V) but the heat gets way to high for my cheap cooler ( Rosewill RCX-Z775-SL 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler).

Finally, after looking here: http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/...on-thread.html
there is a poster with almost the EXACT setup as mine running at stock voltage with 3.0Ghz out of the box.


Here are my questions:
Did I get a bad die or are some of my settings messed up?
Is it worth buying an better cooler and raise the voltage for 150 extra Mhz?
What are temperatures I should be keeping this in (Intel site says max is 61.4 degrees)?
Any suggestions?
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Put the system spec in your profile.Read some oc guides and see why.
First of all ; every chip is different,probably you need more vcore but I dont see things
Anyway thats a good oc. And offcourse you need better cooler.
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Anyone else have any input? I don't see why I can't get to 3.0Ghz unless its a bad die.
Can someone at least confirm that?
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post #4 of 44
Upgrade the cooler to something better than that rosewill. try tightening up the timings on the ram to 4-4-4-15 and try upping the voltage a tad to see what it does

and upping the voltage for a 1.0ghz gain would be no problem for me. Are you not wanting to raise it?

also every chip is different. he could be using a more powerful psu btw
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Not ever chip is going to hit 3.0 ghz. Take my chip for example, I have G0 revision of a q6600, which is arguably the better revision. unfortunately, mine shipped with a higher VID than others, so I can't hit 4.0 Ghz with it. I can't even hit 3.9. I have great cooling and a great overclocking board that have proven results with this same chip doing much better. The problem is that not every chip from every batch will see the same results. If you are only getting 1000MHz extra out of your CPU, thats nothing to complain about. Think about how much money you saved by buying the lower cost CPU and running it at a higher speed. Also consider that a 1Ghz OC is nothing to scoff, that's pretty good IMO. If you want, you can try some new cooling, try adjusting your voltages some more, but don't expect the chip to be golden just because other people have hit higher than you.
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Thanks for the advice. Trust me, I am not scoffing at a 1.0 Ghz gain. I was just worried I might be doing something wrong as I have only OC the chip in my last build (x2 3600+) and then this one. Thanks for the help.
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post #7 of 44
You need to increase the voltage if you want more out of it, just don't go over 1.5V.
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post #8 of 44
Tightening your ram with only make it harder to OC your CPU. Try setting your ram to higher clocks and lower the RAM FSB to 1:1. Setting your RAM this way will rule out the possiblity that it is holding you back.

After you find your CPU max then go back and play with your RAM.
    
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I am not sure how RAM timings work. I know to how to set the tCL, tRCD, tRP, tRAS, and tRFC, but my mobo also has the options tWR, tWRT, tRRD, tRTP and so I do 5-5-5-18-23 for the first five options (in that order) (what CPU-z tells me is a correct setting) at 1.8v. I leave the ones I don't know about at AUTO. Then when I boot, the bios hangs and makes a loud, long beeping. I have to turn it off and reset the CMOS. What am I doing wrong.
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Also, what RAM timings should I use? CPU-z gives these options.
(1) 333Mhz 4-5-5-15-20 1.8 V (I think this is what I currently have even though I am running at like 394 Mhz or so)
(2) 400Mhz 5-5-5-18-23 1.8 V
(3) 400Mhz 4-4-4-12-24 2.2 V
(4) 500Mhz 5-5-5-15-30 2.2 V

I have read that this Crucial Memory dies if run at 2.2 V even though it is within the operating spec (read newegg reviews) so I think I should stick with one of the 1.8 V settings.

RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146565
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