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No it was 37-6 i think yeah we got raped, our only TD was a kick return....How the hell would that be the only touchdown...
    
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What does XP have the Vista doesn't?
As said above, a slightly higher 3Dmark score?
Vista is still young. Im sure after a couple service packs Vista will beat out XP in 3d mark. I mean I doubt the very first release of XP beats a Vista.
and for the everyday user or business person does 3dmark score matter? no.
Vista doesnt work well on older systems, Duh! If you have XP on an older system, great, keep it. I have XP on my old computer still. I'm not gonna install Vista on it becuase I know it's not gonna work out. But to build or buy a new system and still install XP on it makes no sense to me.
I think some people are afraid of change and are used to a certain button being 7 pixels more to the right and can't cope.
Vista is more stable than XP when it first was released. The MAJORITYYY of freezes and Bsod's are driver related. Pressure these companies, not Microsoft.
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I don't see why they don't just support both. They just need to get more features in Vista that people will like and can use. People really need a good reason to switch to Vista. I like both operating systems.
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This is more than a downside. This is more like cost increasing stupidity. Why you would want to train users to use a different operating system just to save a few dollars on slightly more powerful hardware. If you have the power to run Vista, it is quite nice. The transition is so much better than the last time (Win 98 > Win2000 > Win Millenium > Xp > Sp1, 2, 3). That was painful... If you purchased a computer during one of those phases you could get caught with a terrible OS. Microsoft learned a lot from that previous fiasco but people with short memory's complain about anything.

It's not like the applications that are coming out are any less hardware intensive. Ultimately you will have to upgrade.
You must not have read the full post. Security restrictions at the customers (and their customers) site prevent them from using vista due to the OS's random connection attempts. Not the hardware. Due to no response from M$ on this issue they are taking another path.

They have a business to run and are regulated by the government concerning the outbound and inbound communications of their devices. Everything was fine until they upgraded certain workstations to Vista x64. The next day the network security folks physically disconnected those machines from the network and refused to allow them to be connected again until the problem was fixed. They determined it was Vista's internals trying to communicate with a system outside of the network and M$ refuses to tell them what it is or even confirm that it is happening.

Oh and they will not have to re-train any users, since the program interface is the same.
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There is a difference between an operating system that all other programs run on and those individual programs. Sure no one complains about not being able to find norton 06, but thats just one program. An operating system is much more.

Plus, did norton 07 completely suck when it came out as compared to 06, i didnt hear anything about it so I am guessing no. That is half the problem, people will be forced to go to something they don't want. I might not like goign to norton 07 for example, but as long as the process goes smoother than vista, no problem.

Plus, choice is a big problem, how many choices in OS do you have? Maybe three, but linux isnt the best for gaming, and if you can no longer find XP, youre stuck with vista.

On the other hand, how many choices of anti-virus programs do you have? dozens, if norton said you have to use the latest greatest program, you can say, well then I am going to someone else. In the OS department, will people have that choice, no.
Then you should be whining about no one making a better OS, not that MS wants you to upgrade. Sure it sucks, but it's life and it isn't unfair.

And I don't care what anyone says about Linux or OSX being a better operating system. If they offered a better package, they would be used more. Period.
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Microsoft should really create a more transparent and modular OS, it would solve a lot of their problems.

There isn't any good reason that each successive OS should be more than infinetisimally greater in resource consumption. Nor do "innovations" like bright blue buttons gain market share from consumers. People buy Apples if they are willing to spend money on silly looking buttons. Microsoft is in a volume business.

Scrap backwards compatibility except as an addon. Scrap everything except as an addon, but include the addons on the CD as installable extras. Stop enabling random stuff by default that no normal user ever involves themselves in.

Make RAM requirements a benchmark in OS development with just as much currency as GUI attractiveness.

For God's Sake Quit Trying to Be Apple. You stole their only good idea twenty years ago anyway.
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Vista was designed from the ground up for home users, and as such, the only things it can do is hold your hand while you browse the internet, play simple games and upload photos so that you don't download a virus and go and blame the OS. For everything else, mainly the business and hardware enthusiast classes Vista sucks. The only way you can actually get it to the point where it performs like XP is by disabling every last "feature" that is new in Vista, so that its basically XP with aero. People are complaining because they don't want to spend $100+ on an operating system that has nothing over XP.

Microsoft realized this, and they are using every underhanded trick they have, such as limiting DX10 to Vista for no apparent reason, making some of their games "Vista only", and finally now discontinuing XP.

Hopefully they will hurry up and make the transition between Vista and 7 limited to a few months.
    
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And I don't care what anyone says about Linux or OSX being a better operating system. If they offered a better package, they would be used more. Period.
Very True...

Don't forget that Microsoft holds 92% market share. If it were so bad, there are other options on the market. I would be willing to bet that your compatibility problems would be multiplied 10-fold if you move to another OS.

GL if you do...
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Vista was designed from the ground up for home users, and as such, the only things it can do is hold your hand while you browse the internet, play simple games and upload photos so that you don't download a virus and go and blame the OS. For everything else, mainly the business and hardware enthusiast classes Vista sucks. The only way you can actually get it to the point where it performs like XP is by disabling every last "feature" that is new in Vista, so that its basically XP with aero. People are complaining because they don't want to spend $100+ on an operating system that has nothing over XP.

Microsoft realized this, and they are using every underhanded trick they have, such as limiting DX10 to Vista for no apparent reason, making some of their games "Vista only", and finally now discontinuing XP.

Hopefully they will hurry up and make the transition between Vista and 7 limited to a few months.
Calling it an underhanded trick is a gross misconception
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Aside from the DRM in vista(which btw has not even affected me) I've had no problems with it. I don't care what college hes from but he and everyone else are really exaggerating the vista problem.
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