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Oh, so the defendant just sits there and doesn't do anything. Defending themselves doesn't accomplish the same goal as proving their innocence. I clearly stated that was how I arrived at the definition, so learn to read.
It is very clearly stated a person is innocent until proven guilty. It is the defendants job to provide his side of the story when called into account by evidence legally obtained and supplied by the law and constitution
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post #42 of 52
Techno-Mccarthyism?


This is one of the biggest issues in this country. Money rules. A group of money grubbing lawyers will automatically have more rights than the average joe at the get-go. The fact that half the RIAA cases are even seen by a judge is a joke. The really sad part is, if this lady gets a class action lawsuit going and wins, the only ones to benefit will still be all the lawyers.
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post #43 of 52
Correct me if im wrong;

Arnt all the lawsuits that the RIAA brings civil ones?

ie its just a case of them sueing you. You arnt been convicted of any crime, nor does the RIAA have any case for criminal proceedings so its going for the civil route.

I would have no problem with the RIAA bringing criminal proceedings against all these individuals. Not only would most of their so called "evidence" be thrown out of court (judging by what has been said in main articles about their collection methods), the defendant would receivce a fair punishment that has been decided apon by the law makes of the US and not a financial punishment dreamt up by the RIAA that happens to make them a tidy profit.

As I said if got this wrong just ignore me
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Bleh, More RIAA Bullcrap.
They need to just go die. I hope this law-suit takes them down. IMO they should take the RIAA before the supreme court.
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post #45 of 52
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If you're innocent then you have nothing to worry about.
Oh how I despise this line of reasoning. The whole purpose of restrictions on what the government and other agencies can do is to assure that guilty people are treated properly and that innocent people are protected.

Your statement is equivalent to saying its ok to shoot thieves as soon as they're accused, because you'll never steal anything, so it won't affect you. However, as soon as you're falsely accused of stealing, you'll be shot anyways.

Similarly, I firmly believe that the government cannot for any reason overstep its constitutional bounds regarding warrants and wire-tapping. Whether or not I've done something wrong is irrelevant. the government simply does not have the right to invade my privacy and break its laws - laws that were instituted for this very reason: to protect the innocent. When the fuzz breaks down your door and tears through your house because they felt like you might be hiding something, you'll get what I'm saying.
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Power of the People>RIAA
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post #47 of 52
RIAA is not a government agency and in civil cases, you are right, it does not involve criminal charges. However, copyright infringement is I believe (please correct me if I am wrong) a felony and whether it be civil or criminal, evidence cannot be illegally obtained.
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Sadly the RIAA can't be shut down. (Without presidental or congressional legislation anyways.)
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post #49 of 52
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Sadly the RIAA can't be shut down. (Without presidental or congressional legislation anyways.)
No it can't. And even if it was shut down, another group will be there to replace them.
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No it can't. And even if it was shut down, another group will be there to replace them.
There's no need to shut it down. We either need to beat it into submission, or have legislation passed that limits its actions.
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