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I want to add a stripe set (raid 0) to my system. It's not the OS Partition but just an additionnal work volume. The OS is already installed and re-installing is out of question.

The board is a DFI LP DK P35 and support RAID 0/1/5. OS is Vista x64.

The issue I have is: if I try to install the Intel Raid software on the OS before setting my onboard IDE to RAID mode, the intel driver wont install because the hardware is not detected.

The other way around, I cant enable the RAID mode in the BIOS because now my OS wont boot.

is there a way to force the installation of the Intel RAID driver while the BIOS is not yet set in raid mode?

thanks!
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Are you trying to use the drive the OS is already installed on?

If you are using 2 clean dirives, you should be able to set RAID in BIOS, format the 2 new drives and adjust boot priority accordingly.

I am prettty sure you can't format a hdd to use with RAID without wiping it clean. (as in, you would need to reformat the whole drive. You can run one drive with a non-RAID partition and the rest RAID)
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Hello all

I want to add a stripe set (raid 0) to my system. It's not the OS Partition but just an additionnal work volume. The OS is already installed and re-installing is out of question.

The board is a DFI LP DK P35 and support RAID 0/1/5. OS is Vista x64.

The issue I have is: if I try to install the Intel Raid software on the OS before setting my onboard IDE to RAID mode, the intel driver wont install because the hardware is not detected.

The other way around, I cant enable the RAID mode in the BIOS because now my OS wont boot.

is there a way to force the installation of the Intel RAID driver while the BIOS is not yet set in raid mode?

thanks!
Maybe I read wrong. The two hard drives you are raiding have to be wiped clean, If the OS is on a totally different drive than it shouldn't need to be reformatted.

Setting raid should be as easy as turning raid on and then press F10, or whatever your motherboard's raid key is, during boot and setting up raid.. then booting into windows. I don't think you need raid drivers unless its the boot drive.
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You have to reinstall the OS to go to raid 0. Its impossible to do otherwise. The hard drives have to be wiped clean.
Not to hijack, but could you run RAID on 2 clean drives if you already have the OS on a seperate drive? Does the OS have to be on the RAID drives?
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You can do this but you need an additional 2 hard drives separate from your OS hard disk. Install the 2 extra hard drives and in the bios select raid for the 2 new drives you've just installed, you should then be able to partition/format it. However if you are trying to make a raid using the drive that already has your operating system on it, you will have to reformat the drive and create the raid array before you can do anything.
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Not to hijack, but could you run RAID on 2 clean drives if you already have the OS on a seperate drive? Does the OS have to be on the RAID drives?
Edited, I orginally read the post wrong.
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Maybe I read wrong. The two hard drives you are raiding have to be wiped clean, If the OS is on a totally different drive than it shouldn't need to be reformatted.
Agreed. But the OS driver is on the onboard controller as well and when I switch the onboard controler into raid mode, the OS still need the Intel RAId controller to read the OS drive even if it is not a raid drive and it BSOD when trying to load the OS.

So I still need to find a way to force the installation of the RAID driver *before* I enable the raid mode on the SATA controller.

Make sense?

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no the OS doesn't have to be on the RAID drives. But you can't have a "partition" from one drive on a Drive that is in a RAID. So for the OP's instance he'd need 3 HDD, one for OS, and 2 for RAID 0.

Then when he builds the array in the through the CTRL-I feature for the Intel Matrix Manager, he would only add the two drives he wants in RAID 0 to the array. The OS drive he would leave alone. It would be "safest" to do this while the OS disk is NOT connected just to ensure you don't accidentally select it.
    
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Agreed. But the OS driver is on the onboard controller as well and when I switch the onboard controler into raid mode, the OS still need the Intel RAId controller to read the OS drive even if it is not a raid drive and it BSOD when trying to load the OS.

So I still need to find a way to force the installation of the RAID driver *before* I enable the raid mode on the SATA controller.

Make sense?

thanks!
Thats a weird board then, on my 680i I can just designate which sata ports I want on raid and which ones I don't. If you don't have this feature then your best solution would be to buy a cheap raid card and use it for your secondary drives. Check your mobo manual sometimes different boards have their sata ports designated to 2 sata controllers, like the intel sb for some ports and a jmicron controller for the others.
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Vista Ultimate has built in RAID drivers, it shouldn't need that at all. Check to see if you have different colored SATA ports, I know on my P5K Deluxe I've got 4 red and 2 black, I'm guessing they are for just this sort of thing.
    
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