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My point is electricity isn't normally referred to as mass. People think of it as energy although in reality it is just another particle, that doesn't change the fact that it is not counted as a moving part and that it is not counted as having a presence other then the effect we see.
I don't understand why you think that electricity can't move. ANd I bet when I hit you with my lightning crackles you'll not only see the effect, but feel it too.
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I don't understand why you think that electricity can't move. ANd I bet when I hit you with my lightning crackles you'll not only see the effect, but feel it too.
Electricity can and does move. But it isn't counted as a moving part its usually counted as energy.
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Electricity can and does move. But it isn't counted as a moving part its usually counted as energy.
OK this is a totally subjective and pointless thing we are arguing about here -- although it did cause me to ponder mass-energy equivalence and special relativity. Anyway, lets agree to disagree and move on.
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OK this is a totally subjective and pointless thing we are arguing about here -- although it did cause me to ponder mass-energy equivalence and special relativity. Anyway, lets agree to disagree and move on.
I don't even know what were disagreeing about.

Anyways i agree its going nowhere, i will save my energy ( ironic) for another day.
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Hidden chapter: Can energy not move? What exactly is a sound wave then? Why is there a speed of light? And electrons do have mass, albeit a very small one. Also energy and mass can be called equivalent or 2 different ways to measure the same thing either way something is moving whether it is called energy or mass or electrons or even information encoded as the absence or presence of electrons propagating down a trace on your motherboard from your RAM to your northbridge..
Light IS a particle... Electrons ARE particles. But saying they're "in motion" and that counts as mechanical motion... Come on, that's stretching it.

Fine: nothing is EVER at rest since everything in the universe is constantly moving. When you think you're in bed sleeping peacefully, you're actually flying out in space at the speed of light.

See how that works? No need to go overboard with this.
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Light IS a particle... Electrons ARE particles. But saying they're "in motion" and that counts as mechanical motion... Come on, that's stretching it.

Fine: nothing is EVER at rest since everything in the universe is constantly moving. When you think you're in bed sleeping peacefully, you're actually flying out in space at the speed of light.

See how that works? No need to go overboard with this.
You're right, but read starting at post #41 on and you'll see where this started to go overboard.
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You're right, but read starting at post #41 on and you'll see where this started to go overboard.
Well technically it's an incorrect statement. A transistor doesn't rotate or sway or move up and down. What is there to argue about?

The Hundred Gunner says that this is the end!
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I believe the Xenon Ion Engine is the fastest engine humans currently have in real-world use.
The Hall Effect Xenon is, yes. But the MPDT Hydrogen will own all when it goes beyond pulse mode

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OK this is a totally subjective and pointless thing we are arguing about here -- although it did cause me to ponder mass-energy equivalence and special relativity. Anyway, lets agree to disagree and move on.
Which is coming into question more and more as theories of QCD and (possible) quantum gravity come into play. Einstein had to use general relativity to explain it.

He was such a genius. My god, even Hertz couldn't imagine the photoelectric effect, and he designed the experiment that proved it. Einstein was sitting in his laboratory reading about it and came up with his own proof. It was drawing on Planck's law heavily, but yet it was still an immense accomplishment....

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Electricity can and does move. But it isn't counted as a moving part its usually counted as energy.
*beats head into table*
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Too bad this technology creates poison ozone.

In a small device it would be negligible, however something the size of a desktop computer would probably be enough to pose health and environmental hazards.
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