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Does anyone know mixing single with double sided Ballistix will hinder my overclock? My double sided Tracers are currently at 1066 MHz (PC6400).

Thinking about getting these for 4 GB (or 3.5 GB in the manner of 32 bit):
http://www.overclock.net/online-deal...r2-800mhz.html
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Depends on what you mean by hinder lol.

Single sided Ballistix (8 IC's) can be paired with double sided Ballistix (16 IC's) and they'll work just fine.

However, they are different IC's, and the combined set will only overclock as high as the weakest link. Since the single sided Ballistix don't overclock as well as the double sided Ballistix, the combined set can only overclock as high as the single sided Ballistix can go.

So you could overclock higher (probably) by using just the double sided Ballistix, but using just the single sided Ballistix should give you the same overclock.
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So simply, they won't do too well together since the IC chips are different.

Why did Crucial switch to single sided again?
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Bump. Any more opinions?
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Durch got it right. If they are both DDR2 1066 sticks, with the same timings, they will run fine together. However, the single-sided sticks don't OC quite as high as the double sided ones. Thus, you may only be able to go to DDR2 1150, instead of DDR2 1200+. In other words, unless you are going for super fast RAM, well past the stock speeds of DDR2 1066, they will work fine together. However, if you are hoping to hit DDR2 1200, then you would most likely need 2 sets of Double-Sided RAM.
    
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Durch got it right. If they are both DDR2 1066 sticks, with the same timings, they will run fine together. However, the single-sided sticks don't OC quite as high as the double sided ones. Thus, you may only be able to go to DDR2 1150, instead of DDR2 1200+. In other words, unless you are going for super fast RAM, well past the stock speeds of DDR2 1066, they will work fine together. However, if you are hoping to hit DDR2 1200, then you would most likely need 2 sets of Double-Sided RAM.
I forgot to mention that they're DDR800s. So I'm asking if the single sided will overclock to 1066 MHz. If not, will it hit 1000 for sure?
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I forgot to mention that they're DDR800s. So I'm asking if the single sided will overclock to 1066 MHz. If not, will it hit 1000 for sure?
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Yes, no worries there; it's not a big overclock and even the single sided is able to achieve that without risks, unless you get really unlucky...
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Yes, no worries there; it's not a big overclock and even the single sided is able to achieve that without risks, unless you get really unlucky...
Awesome, thanks. When people said it wouldn't overclock I was thinking it wouldn't even hit 1000 MHz. I'll be satisfied with 1066 MHz.

+rep to all of you. But more inputs are appreciated.
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So simply, they won't do too well together since the IC chips are different.

Why did Crucial switch to single sided again?
Makes sense from a supply standpoint to me. The IC's they were using before were 64MB, and 16 of them gave 1024MB which is great for 2x1GB sets, just put 8 on each side of the RAM. To make 2x2GB, they would need 32 64MB IC's on each stick of RAM, and obviously you can't just double the number of IC's on a side without changing their physical size. So the industry developed more dense IC's having 128MB of memory but the same physical dimensions of the 64MB IC's. So the 2x2GB sets have 16 128MB IC's (double-sided). Since they're moving production toward 2x2GB sets while still making 2x1GB sets, my guess is they decided it just makes sense to only buy the 128MB IC's. Unfortunately for us, these new IC's are good but not as good as the perfected 64MB IC's (Micron D9GMH). Hopefully in the future they'll improve and we'll see some better kits hitting the market.
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This is not from first-hand experience, but I read in a thread yesterday that someone here mixed single/double-sided Ballistix and their speed dropped dramatically.
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