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"I've been a computer nerd since I was barely old enough to hold a joystick. The first computer I owned was a Commodore 64. Why am I giving you my life story? Just so you know, I've seen many many new hardware releases, and there is something about the upcoming 9800GTX and 9800GT cards that I think many people have got wrong."

"Some of you think that the 9800GTX and the 9800GT are going to be lame ducks. They are going suck the proverbial ass, well I'm here to tell you you're wrong."

"Why? You ask. Well, take a look at exhibit A."

LINK to EXHIBIT A

"Dirt cheap 8800GT cards. Some of the best cards ever made. These bad boys can go toe to toe with cards that cost twice as much and come out with hardly a scratch. Why would retailers be trying to unload these cards with such low prices if they thought that the 9800GTX and 9800GT were going to be crap cards that they could keep at a high price because they would still be near the top of the performance pile."

"Exhibit B is a post that was made a little before the 8800GT came out. People were looking at the early benchmark numbers and they didn't like what they saw... we all know how the 8800GT turned out. Everyone now seems to see it as one of the best cards ever made."

LINK to EXHIBIT B

"Some quotes..."

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"Sistum Id said: so are these scores any good?
GuardianOdin said: not really."
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i get 13k with my X1950xt 512mb, so i am hoping that these are fake
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...I'm without a doubt going with the 2950 series..........
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those scores arent very high if i had a c2d i could mach those with my card.
"I rest my case. People are always saying that the next card isn't going to be very good to make them feel better about the cards they have now. Then, it turns out the next gen just plain rules. The 9800GTX and 9800GT are going to rock. You'll see, YOU'LL ALL SEE!"

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"I've been a computer nerd since I was barely old enough to hold a joystick. The first computer I owned was a Commodore 64. Why am I giving you my life story? Just so you know, I've seen many many new hardware releases, and there is something about the upcoming 9800GTX and 9800GT cards that I think many people have got wrong."

"Some of you think that the 9800GTX and the 9800GT are going to be lame ducks. They are going suck the proverbial ass, well I'm here to tell you you're wrong."

"Why? You ask. Well, take a look at exhibit A."

LINK to EXHIBIT A

"Dirt cheap 8800GT cards. Some of the best cards ever made. These bad boys can go toe to toe with cards that cost twice as much and come out with hardly a scratch. Why would retailers be trying to unload these cards with such low prices if they thought that the 9800GTX and 9800GT were going to be crap cards that they could keep at a high price because they would still be near the top of the performance pile."

"Exhibit B is a post that was made a little before the 8800GT came out. People were looking at the early benchmark numbers and they didn't like what they saw... we all know how the 8800GT turned out. Everyone now seems to see it as one of the best cards ever made."

LINK to EXHIBIT B

"Some quotes..."









"I rest my case. People are always saying that the next card isn't going to be very good to make them feel better about the cards they have now. Then, it turns out the next gen just plain rules. The 9800GTX and 9800GT are going to rock. You'll see, YOU'LL ALL SEE!"

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Why do you talk like that?
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We never know unless we test them, but that fack 9800GTX is so close to 8800GTS in all about everything then what you are saying its not correct. You never know what nvidia will do with the drivers tweaking them to work much better the 9series and worst with 8series to make that difference.
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He has a damn good point!


Maybe the 9800 GTX will be EPIC WIN AFTER ALL!!!!!!!!!!
    
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Why do you talk like that?
QFT lol

I like his posts, it is funny how he talks
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No.

The card will be slightly (~10%) better than an 8800GTS 512. There will be no miracle driver optimizations, and any such optimization would help all the other G92 cards just as much.

I do not say this to make myself feel better about the 8800GTS 512 in my system (I probably won't even have it 6 months from now). I say this because the 9800GTX uses a functionally identical core, at similar clock speeds, and slight faster ram at slightly faster clock speeds.

Take an 9800GTX and lower the clocks to those of an 8800GTS and I would put real money on them performing so closely as to be within the margin of error of whatever test you use.

The GTX is not going to be crap, it's going to be more of the same.
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The answer to everything you have just said is this:

MARKETING TECHNIQUES! Nvidia are a company, a companies aim is to make money and therefore by doing a bit of rebranding etc... They draw in more custom.
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I was going to reply, but there were too many smilies in this thread already!
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The 9800GTX is exactly the same as an 8800GTS, except with an extra 25MHz on the core and 200MHz on the memory, and tri-sli capability.

The 9800GT is exactly the same as an 8800GT, except with an extra 50MHz on the core and 100MHz on the memory, and tri-sli capability.
    
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