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I plan on building a watercooled system soon. Is it better to buy a case that was made for watercooling rather than modify a normal case? I'm pretty sure I've seen kits that come with a case, radiator, pump and all the stuff you need to watercool. Are these kits any good or is it better/cheaper to build them yourself?

Any help or advice is greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Can you link us to the cases / kits you had in mind?
    
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what's your budget and what are you wanting to cool?

I would definitely recommend against getting a water-cooled case because more than likely it's a Koolance, Thermaltake, or gigabyte all of which suck.
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what's your budget and what are you wanting to cool?

I would definitely recommend against getting a water-cooled case because more than likely it's a Koolance, Thermaltake, or gigabyte all of which suck.
Obviously have no experience with the higher end Thermaltake cases. I used to have a TT shark which was the greatest I had ever used until the Xaser XI i just got which by the way, is absolutely fit for watercooling. Not many cases allow you to put a HL black ice 2x120mm radiator INSIDE the case whilst having its own channel of air flow so that no heat gets trapped in the case.

It depends which you are getting, WC ready cases are great considering no drilling is required, however do not get one that already has a kit, they tend to be pretty weak performers.
    
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I'd piece a rig together, you can usually get better parts for the same $$$...You can WC almost any mid-tower on up case with a little tweaking...I like to hang my rad on the back of my case or on the top anyway so it will be out in the cooler room ambient temp's....
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I'm just in the planning stages right now. I was probably going to buy one of the higher end C2Ds or Quads, the $200ish ones, not the $1000 ones. Also going to buy a single higher end graphics card.

So it's easy to adapt a normal case for watercooling? I don't fear the drill. So are watercooling cases just overpriced then? I would like everything to contained in or attached to the case, with no lines or crap coming out of the case, if that's possible. You guys know of any good things to look at to learn more about this stuff?
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I think the Swiftech H20 220 Compact kit may be a good starting point. I would replace the tubing (which will need new clamps), the fans, and some longer screws, duct tape, and tubing to fabricate a shroud and space it out. However, you will be up and running with a CPU loop for under $200, and no real fabrication or work inside the case.

I found the Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 R2 (not R3), with a 120mm fan gives good GPU temps without water cooling. With good fans the kit should support a single video card.

And then you can upgrade as necessary or desired.
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Originally Posted by leakyfaucet View Post
I'm just in the planning stages right now. I was probably going to buy one of the higher end C2Ds or Quads, the $200ish ones, not the $1000 ones. Also going to buy a single higher end graphics card.

So it's easy to adapt a normal case for watercooling? I don't fear the drill. So are watercooling cases just overpriced then? I would like everything to contained in or attached to the case, with no lines or crap coming out of the case, if that's possible. You guys know of any good things to look at to learn more about this stuff?
Something like this would be a decent rig..

CPU..Fuzion

Pump...Laing D-5

Rad...360 GTX or for cheaper but with worse flow the GTS 360...

GPU...Siftech 60 with ram sinks...

Tubing..7/16x5/8" Masterkleer on /12" barbs, its more compact will flow about as well as full 1/2x3/4" and fits the barbs tighter....

Then a res or t-line and clamps, thats about it...I'm on a new rig or I would of linked you to all of it....
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Hell yeah, thanks for the help guys. The all in one kit is pretty interesting, since it simplifies the work and all that, but can it cool a GPU as well or is it not really made for that?

ira-k, the parts you listed seem pretty good, though maybe a bit more expensive. I'm assuming this rig would work well enough to cool both CPU and GPU in one loop?
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Originally Posted by leakyfaucet View Post
Hell yeah, thanks for the help guys. The all in one kit is pretty interesting, since it simplifies the work and all that, but can it cool a GPU as well or is it not really made for that?

ira-k, the parts you listed seem pretty good, though maybe a bit more expensive. I'm assuming this rig would work well enough to cool both CPU and GPU in one loop?
Yeah it would do OK, I'd try to get the GTX rad for it....
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