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For what reasons? Because you hate it?
Well, yes, I hate apple, their commercials, their user base, pretty much everything about them. But that has nothing to do with why I picked it.

They hold such an incredibly small market share, no one in their right mind would waste time finding vulnerabilities. There have been a few proof of concepts where people have developed viruses for them, but other than that, not much else. Yet, apple seems to be so confident that their OS is immune to viruses and the like.

There is a treasure trove of exploits just waiting for these guys to find.
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i agree. Just because its UNIX based doesn't mean it's impossible. It just a bigger ***** then a woman on menopause having a bad day after her husband tells her she looks fat in her dress.

wouldn't want to be in the room when that happens.
    
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Condescend much? How about you put up some explanation of why it's not (or you should probably shut up too.)
Read my whole post. I didn't say, "It sucks" or "It rocks." I didn't make blanket statements. In fact, I gave a reason for what I believe.

If you would have read instead of looking at the parts you wanted to see... You'd not have posted that.

So you should read everything that someone says before you go off on them "(or you should probably shut up too.)"

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Well, yes, I hate apple, their commercials, their user base, pretty much everything about them. But that has nothing to do with why I picked it.

They hold such an incredibly small market share, no one in their right mind would waste time finding vulnerabilities. There have been a few proof of concepts where people have developed viruses for them, but other than that, not much else. Yet, apple seems to be so confident that their OS is immune to viruses and the like.

There is a treasure trove of exploits just waiting for these guys to find.
This just seems like a conjecture based on very little information... However, everyone is entitled to his or her opinion.

It's true, though, that OSX has been out for a while now. Those holes haven't been as fully exploited as say XP, since it hasn't had much of the spotlight until lately. So now there is a "new" target, if you will.
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In AFTER flaming... damn.

I think it will be either Vista or OSX first.

OSX because it's closed source, so there are less people that work on it, and yet it has a small market share, so no one tries to uncover any holes that it might have.

Vista because it's Windows, haha. I mean there are plenty of people attacking it, so the various holes become known, but then again, Microsoft doesn't have the best track record for fixing things either.

Of course, I bet some Ubuntu developer could easily go in there and hack his own code right off the bat, haha.
    
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In AFTER flaming... damn.

I think it will be either Vista or OSX first.

OSX because it's closed source, so there are less people that work on it, and yet it has a small market share, so no one tries to uncover any holes that it might have.

Vista because it's Windows, haha. I mean there are plenty of people attacking it, so the various holes become known, but then again, Microsoft doesn't have the best track record for fixing things either.

Of course, I bet some Ubuntu developer could easily go in there and hack his own code right off the bat, haha.
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Yeah, there are plenty of reasons each one could be hacked first.

But even once we have the results, I don't think that will really tell us which one is the most secure. Even if they were all equally secure, one of them would have to be hacked first.

I guess the time difference will help. Like if it takes significantly longer to hack one of them, then it's probably more secure, but if they're all hacked within an hour of each other, then they're about the same.
    
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wouldn't windows probably be hacked first because more people know how to hack it? meaning that a larger percentage of people have the potential to hack it, so there would be a larger probability of it being hacked first.

Makes sense to me, but i know nothing about hacking...
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post #38 of 59
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wouldn't windows probably be hacked first because more people know how to hack it? meaning that a larger percentage of people have the potential to hack it, so there would be a larger probability of it being hacked first.

Makes sense to me, but i know nothing about hacking...
True. And like Muahahahaha was saying, that doesn't necessarily mean it's the least secure. It's hard to really know.
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im pretty sure UNIX based OS are hackable. Nothing is un-hackable. you just need the tools, time and knowledge. These events don't actually draw out the best of the best. Granted the ones who do attend probably kick more ass then bruce lee when it comes to hacking, the super uber 1337 hackers probably regard this contest as child's play.

but then that also begs the question, wouldn't hackers like to hack the un-hackable? So wouldn't they be feverishly working to break it as we speak whether its for a contest or not?

But again you got people who can hack into NASA and the government. I'm pretty sure their internet defense system kicks apple's shiny modern design ass.
Unix based systems are indeed hackable, it just isn't as easy as Windows based systems. Years ago there was an overflow based bug with Unix in which if you entered too many characters into the prompt it would overflow and basically default to admin privileges. After that the world is your oyster. Of course, this was an oversight and was soon fixed. Problems like these happen with all OSes, Windows just has a lot more of them. Although I must admit, Vista seems so much more secure than XP. By "seems" I mean I get no more pop-up/adware/spyware issues that I would get with XP even with my firewall software.
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Does Linus Thorvald get royalty since crapple uses his kernel??
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