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I was comparing it to the new Eee PC, which comes with an intel atom processor and will most likely be clocked at around 1.2GHz, probably higher. Performance wise the X300 will be faster because I'm pretty sure atoms aren't dual core, but other than that you have to ask yourself, is a 64GB SSD, an extra core clocked at the same speed, and an extra 4" screensize worth an extra $2800?
http://translate.google.com/translat...&hl=en&ie=UTF8

That was the only benchmark of the Atom 1.6GHz that I could dig up quickly, but it's barely better than an old P-III 1.13GHz. Nearly 2 minutes for a 1M SuperPi is very poor in terms of performance. Granted, it's absolutely fantastic considering it's only using a couple watts, but there is an enormous gap between the two when considering performance.

For the screen, it's not just a 4" screen size difference. The fact that's it's a resolution of 1440x900 in a 13.3" laptop is huge. The improved, but still limited 1024x600 on the EEE can even make web browsing difficult for some sites. Not to mention things like spreadsheets and word processing (the type of activities you'd most likely be using an X300 for).

Bluetooth, WiMax, 802.11, and draft-n are another set of features that come in very handy for people who are on the move relying on wireless connections. Then add in all the extras like GPS, wirless USB, a 64GB SSD, full connectivity in terms of ports, and a standard 14" keyboard (unlike the cramped EEE). This is like comparing a fully loaded Mercedes to a Honda Civic. Both products serve their purposes very well, but when you add up all the features and consider that ALL of them are included in a single package, it's crazy to say the X300 and EEE are in the same league.
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http://translate.google.com/translat...&hl=en&ie=UTF8

That was the only benchmark of the Atom 1.6GHz that I could dig up quickly, but it's barely better than an old P-III 1.13GHz. Nearly 2 minutes for a 1M SuperPi is very poor in terms of performance. Granted, it's absolutely fantastic considering it's only using a couple watts, but there is an enormous gap between the two when considering performance.

For the screen, it's not just a 4" screen size difference. The fact that's it's a resolution of 1440x900 in a 13.3" laptop is huge. The improved, but still limited 1024x600 on the EEE can even make web browsing difficult for some sites. Not to mention things like spreadsheets and word processing (the type of activities you'd most likely be using an X300 for).

Bluetooth, WiMax, 802.11, and draft-n are another set of features that come in very handy for people who are on the move relying on wireless connections. Then add in all the extras like GPS, wirless USB, a 64GB SSD, full connectivity in terms of ports, and a standard 14" keyboard (unlike the cramped EEE). This is like comparing a fully loaded Mercedes to a Honda Civic. Both products serve their purposes very well, but when you add up all the features and consider that ALL of them are included in a single package, it's crazy to say the X300 and EEE are in the same league.
Ok then lets compare it to the Dell XPS m1330, which is only 1lb heavier and at most 1/2" thicker, yet for the same price you get a 2.6GHz Penryn, 4GB ram, a 64GB SSD, and an 8400m GS, bluetooth, wireless N, and mobile broadband.

My point is that for over $3000 you should be getting more than a weak little 1.2GHz processor and ****ty intel graphics.
    
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Ok then lets compare it to the Dell XPS m1330, which is only 1lb heavier and at most 1/2" thicker, yet for the same price you get a 2.6GHz Penryn, 4GB ram, a 64GB SSD, and an 8400m GS, bluetooth, wireless N, and mobile broadband.

My point is that for over $3000 you should be getting more than a weak little 1.2GHz processor and ****ty intel graphics.
I think I would agree with that. In that higher performance bracket the X300 has to take some shortcuts to keep all that stuff in such a small package. As soon as we figure out a conversion between inches and gigahertz we'll have a definitive answer of which laptop is superior.
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Ok then lets compare it to the Dell XPS m1330, which is only 1lb heavier and at most 1/2" thicker, yet for the same price you get a 2.6GHz Penryn, 4GB ram, a 64GB SSD, and an 8400m GS, bluetooth, wireless N, and mobile broadband.

My point is that for over $3000 you should be getting more than a weak little 1.2GHz processor and ****ty intel graphics.
An XPS 1330 is 4 pounds?

I think not.
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Guys, we can all agree that you are going to pay the price (a large one) for this small step down in size. There's no point in arguing about that point anymore.

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My MacBook gets about 4-4.5 hours of battery life. I would really like to see more. I might like to see what Sony has next time I get a laptop...
WIRED really liked the Vaio VGN-FZ180E in its "Test - Best Gadgets of 2008" issue. It got "best of test". I'm not about to do any research on the specs and everything but I just figured I'd let you know. WIRED mentions that a ~$2000 version of it includes a Blu-Ray WRITER. Wow!

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An XPS 1330 is 4 pounds?

I think not.
You're right. It's less.
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both sony and fijisu offer 11" and 9" laptops. sony TZ even come with a C2D ULV processor. I can get around 6.5 hours on TZ (8700mAh) with brightest LED and Sprint EVDO connection on. You can get probably around 8~9 hrs with power saving and internet off.
with wifi/bt/evdo off i am able to get ~8 hours....with the screen at brightest.
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Guys, we can all agree that you are going to pay the price (a large one) for this small step down in size. There's no point in arguing about that point anymore.



WIRED really liked the Vaio VGN-FZ180E in its "Test - Best Gadgets of 2008" issue. It got "best of test". I'm not about to do any research on the specs and everything but I just figured I'd let you know. WIRED mentions that a ~$2000 version of it includes a Blu-Ray WRITER. Wow!



You're right. It's less.
Wow, Owned.

On Topic: This is a great laptop that makes use of some cool new tech (Like SSD) that I really hope does well.
Laptop...awesome.
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An XPS 1330 is 4 pounds?

I think not.
Never said it was, I said it was 1lb heavier than the X300, which actually puts it at 3.9lb
    
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