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post #11 of 48
the pirate thing is just a cop out by developers so we feel sorry for them that they are making console games when really they are just cashing in.
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post #12 of 48
Brad Wardell is the man, I agree with a lot of his points.
post #13 of 48
Oh god, don't let the bleeding hearts of Overclock see this!!
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post #14 of 48
Wow.

Intelligence in the gaming industry.
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post #15 of 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by Choggs396 View Post
Kinda like ShareWare: If you like it, buy it!!

Lol.... if you ever get popped by the RIAA, tell them you were just sampling demos...
post #16 of 48
Sadly, even though this is a breath of fresh air, I believe
that the majority of the industry is heading towards the
"Console Only" faulty philosophy.

Sure. It's harder to pirate on a console, but it's still
not impossible. I mean, as far as I know all current
consoles (360, PS3, Wii) are completely moddable to
play pirated games.

(I think I remember reading someone being able to back
up a PS3 game, not quite so sure on playing it)

More game developers need to do something that they're
all neglecting:

Make content worth purchasing!
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post #17 of 48
I feel this is completely correct. If a game looks promising, I will buy it. But most games just don't look very good.
If I'm not sure after watching videos and such...I will download the game...this rarely results in a sale...and quite frankly...i usually delete the game shortly after. Any game that I resort to pirating has never really appealed to me.

The only game that I pirated first...then bought later was HALO 2. However, I am sorta regretting my purchase. The single player is superb, but the multi-player is just crap!
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post #18 of 48
He's correct on the point that copy protection is useless (expect for the online part, where CD checks seem to work great). There really isn't anything they can do that the pirates won't just crack the same day then post to the internet, so all the copy protection does is make things worse for the buyer, and the pirated version from the internet becomes BETTER then the retail, which just isn't right.
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post #19 of 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy9000 View Post
the pirated version from the internet becomes BETTER then the retail, which just isn't right.
In some cases that isn't true. I remember reading an article
by a developer where they stated putting in special checks
mid-game. If the check failed, the game would crash, on
purpose. The pirates took this to mean the game was buggy,
and in return all the forums were filled with people warning
against the game.

Result: Game became a failure

(The pirates only removed the CD check and knew nothing of the
hidden checks within)
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post #20 of 48
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fusion Racing View Post
if someone wants to pirate a game, 90% of the time it will be because they wouldn't buy it anyway, so therefore whatever they do, the company wont get any money out of it. if anything, a lot of the latest games could well have lost sales due to all of the copy protection rubbish that is put on them, all you have to do is just mention Bioshock...
Fixed for you.

Yeah, Bioshock is one game I completely ignored. I don't need that crud on my PC.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sikozu View Post
Although most games are released in many places around the same time a few arnt. If you put months between the release of a game in different countries of course people are gunna pirate. With todays infrastructure and production capabilities there is no excuse to not releasing everywhere within say a week or two.
Call of Juarez is the perfect example. They released it somewhere 9 months before releasing it in Canada.

I was reading reviews about it in October, and actually got to buy it in June.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ManicGenius View Post
In some cases that isn't true. I remember reading an article
by a developer where they stated putting in special checks
mid-game. If the check failed, the game would crash, on
purpose. The pirates took this to mean the game was buggy,
and in return all the forums were filled with people warning
against the game.

Result: Game became a failure

(The pirates only removed the CD check and knew nothing of the
hidden checks within)
The problems with those games is often the idiot developers make mistakes, and the retail versions become unstable.

One example is Beyond Good & Evil. Really fun game, but if you have a VIA chipset, or an older chipset, or a newer chipset, then there's a 10% chance it screws up your saved games 8/10ths through the game. DAMN!

And worse yet, the patch(which addresses important issues) increases the chance to something like 60%. About the only chipset that has a 100% chance of working fine is an nForce 2. Anything else and you're out of luck.

Now luckily, some pirates wrote a saved-game fixer. Bless them...

I agree with the guy in the article. Pirates really aren't a problem if you have a quality game.
     
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