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Cool I like the part where he says our customers make the rules! That's true business man there. Who here like to put in the 25 different key's and numbers just to get to play the game? Wouldn't that suck if you had to do that every time you wanted to add a new piece of hardware (I know hardware and software are two totally different things, but you get the point)?
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Thats what I've been thinking.
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I think I will support his company and their views and buy Sins of a Solar Empire just for this.
post #24 of 48
Very strong argument being made here... I wonder how other developers will respond
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I agree....I think most habitual pirates (not counting the 'play before you pay') are never going to buy the copy.....so it's really not worth the extra overhead.

Not to mention that secureROM SUCKS and causes many issues with honest customers (such as myself)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla View Post
Not to mention that secureROM SUCKS and causes many issues with honest customers (such as myself)
My Battlefield games are worthless right now. Crash crash crash crash... Good thing their next one is free; I wouldn't spend another penny on something they release without trying it beforehand. Even then...I don't know if I'd buy it. So far they've rewarded me for paying for their games by stopping me from playing them.
     
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post #27 of 48
Piracy has been around since the beginning of the game industry. Remember "Don't copy that floppy"? Piracy was just as much an issue in the early days of the gaming as it is now. It's not just some scourge that has suddenly popped up and is "killing" the game industry. It is something that has always been there and is not going to go away. It's good someone finally got smart enough not to waste their efforts and instead spend them on making a good experience for the legit users.

Now if only the music industry would realize that piracy has been around since the 8-track days and earlier and is nothing new...
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Originally Posted by HrnyGoat View Post
Now if only the music industry would realize that piracy has been around since the 8-track days and earlier and is nothing new...
It was around, but much harder to do. Bandwidth was limited and it wasn't made so accessible like it is today.

That's the reason the problem is so bad now, ignoring the pirates will be the downfall of the pc gaming industry.

What they need to do is come up with a hardware based protection that doesn't get circumvented in a matter of minutes, and one which won't cause any inconvenience to legitimate consumers.

If they could do that, then consoles wouldn't be so important to developers, and we might see some actual independent PC titles come out.
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I love the philosphy quoted in the OP. This perfectly describes what is going on now in the Il2 flight sim community. This is a game with a very strong (though small in gaming terms) community that has bought multiple versions of the game and many have bought friends copies just to be sure that the developer has thier money and can continue to create wonderful, industry leading flight sims. The latest version (which is all the previous versions merged onto one dvd and install) Il2:1946, has securom on it and there is a vast majority that are unable to run this game. On the forums we have been forced to resort to telling people through PM's to get the no-dvd crack just to play the game they purchased. And this is NOT the will of the developer 1C-Maddox Games, but the publisher Ubisoft (those rat bast...sorry).
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FZ0 View Post
It was around, but much harder to do. Bandwidth was limited and it wasn't made so accessible like it is today.

That's the reason the problem is so bad now, ignoring the pirates will be the downfall of the pc gaming industry.

What they need to do is come up with a hardware based protection that doesn't get circumvented in a matter of minutes, and one which won't cause any inconvenience to legitimate consumers.

If they could do that, then consoles wouldn't be so important to developers, and we might see some actual independent PC titles come out.
The flaw in that is hardware can fail. And it can still be circumvented through the use of creating something to emulate it. I also wouldn't want to fill up all my usb ports with stupid crap like that.

Bottom line is good games sell, bad games don't and pirates will always be pirates
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