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Even since Intel released their CORE 2 cpus, AMD quickly stepped down from the performance pedestal. For a year or two you could only see AMD processors in every performance machines, but now Intel is trampling AMD with much more powerful and efficient chips.

But I really want AMD and ATI to keep on going; the worst case scenario is a Intel/Nvidia monopoly on the CPU/GPU market... If only they could come up with their stuff at least not that long after the others come up with theirs...

How long did we wait for the R600 and the Phenom? Too long! How did they stack up against what was being offered since 6 months already? Not well at all...
Monopoly wont happen (as ive said in many threads). AMD has alot of technology and assets, a company like Samsung may very well just buy them. Also, Intel makes GPU's, so nvidia cant have a monopoly. In any case, AMD has stepped down from the enthusiast platform and is entering main stream, so they are playing the price is right...
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I'm not much of an AMD fan, since their performance lead over Intel hasn't been much since the Core 2 Duos came out (if any lead at all). The last time they were in the lead was when the Athlon 64 came out and the only other option was the early P4.

What I want to see is them at least getting a lot closer to the performance level of the current Intel processors, but since the E8400 came out, that's going to REALLY be hard. They need to rush their 45nm CPUs in so some actual competition can take place, and the same goes for their Radeon video cards. With hardly any competition, we're looking at >$500 for the best video card available, but back when the BFG 6800 GT came out, it was the top of the line and only what, 250? 300? It's 2x that today, and not because they have to cover the manufacturing cost of larger cards either. It's simply because they CAN price them that high, because the closest (only) competitor, ATI, can't seem to get any real lead over nVidia for very long, if at all. If there were hot competition, these prices would be back to the way they were 5-6 years ago, back down to a reasonable level. Jeez, it's no wonder more and more PC gamers are switching to consoles. A new PS3 costs what, $450? You get a BR player (even if it's not that great compared to a stand-alone player), you get amazing graphics with full 1080p HD capabilities, as well as online gameplay. For $600 you can get a GX2, and it does only video (sure there's HDMI blah blah w/e), but that's all. It's just the card.

Now, I refuse to full-heartedly bash PC gaming, seeing as I myself have no plans to switch to console (yet), BUT, the ONLY reason I am still buying PC hardware is because I am selling off the old hardware right before their prices drop (right before the new stuff comes out), and then buy the new stuff with only $100-200 out of pocket, once a year. This time around I am using the step-up program to get the GX2, and this is only because eVGA is not using my current card's depreciated value but the price I paid for it, which was $388 total (they count shipping and taxes to the total). That's a significant chunk. Before that, I sold my 8800 GTX and a $100 point-and-shoot camera that I never used and did the upgrade to my current motherboard, video card, and memory. Sold my GTX for $550, so $650 total minus $145 for mobo, $200 for RAM, and $350 for vid card. Total out-of-pocket was about $60 bucks for a practically new system. Before that I sold my Nikon D50 with 18-70mm lens to get the GTX. So , as you can see, the only reason I still buy high-end video cards is because I started off with selling an expensive camera. Before that I was on pretty much budget builds.
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ooh good news. I decided to wait off on my q66 upgrade, and when I get enough cash to do build a real system, I will see what I should do.

Phenom or C2Q, that is the question...

Either chip will do whatever you want it to, so use randomized.com
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