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I currently have two 500GB drives installed and a 320GB FireWire external. I do a lot of photography so free GB's seem to disappear quickly. I have one 500GB dedicated to photos which is then backed up on the external. The other 500GB has important files and downloads; some of which is backed up on the external.

The problem is the external is now full. I would be absolutely devasted if I lost years worth of work/photos. I could buy another external but it's not very practical in my mind to run a 1:2 backup ratio. I could burn DVD-DLs but they're spendy and there would end up being A LOT of them. Any changes to archived files would either have to be doubled up on a new backup or the original would have to be remastered.

I've used RAID1 in the past thinking it was safe as could be but a power surge simultaneously fried both drives. The cost of the drives was nothing compared to the lost data. I have since learned my lesson with power protection.

I was thinking about picking up another 500GB and setting up a RAID5 array. Here are my questions:

-How easy is it to set up on an ICH9R?
-Do I have to re-install the OS after enabling RAID in the BIOS?
-How reliable is this method of RAID? Is it software RAID or hardware RAID?
-With total reliability priority, is there a better way to go about this?
post #2 of 22
You are going to need a very pricey raid controller card to handle Raid5, about $250. Otherwise its going to be really slow.

-You would have to reinstall if your using the OS drive in the raid setup.
-Raid 5 is reliable, alot of companys use it.
-Raid 1 would be much cheaper.
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Yes, you have to reinstall the OS. Raid is enabled on the mobo if you have an on board controller. It is pretty easy if you mobo supports raid5. It should be reliable unless you have multiple drive failures. It would be better than what you have now.
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So the ICH9R is capable of RAID5 (which confirms what I thought) but it will hinder performance? Doesn't RAID5 "scale" much better (i.e. not requiring twice the amount of storage space)?
post #5 of 22
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You are going to need a very pricey raid controller card to handle Raid5, about $250. Otherwise its going to be really slow.

-You would have to reinstall if your using the OS drive in the raid setup.
-Raid 5 is reliable, alot of companys use it.
-Raid 1 would be much cheaper.
RAID 5 is slow with the SATA ports on the board? Is it necessary to have a controller card? Sorry if I'm hijacking your thread.

I would say buy a 500 GB and RAID 5 but after reading what Murlocke said..
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Agreed, RAID1 didn't seem to slow anything down but if RAID5 is going to bog down that "drive" then I don't know...
post #7 of 22
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RAID 5 is slow with the SATA ports on the board? Is it necessary to have a controller card? Sorry if I'm hijacking your thread.

I would say buy a 500 GB and RAID 5 but after reading what Murlocke said..
I was planning on setuping up a 1.5TB Raid5 partition with external drives, however after some research and some posting on this site I found out I would of needed a good raid controller card.. I believe CyberDruid was the one that told me about it not 100% sure.

Raid 5 is very complex and will eat alot of CPU if you use a cheap raid controller card or onboard.
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I was planning on setuping up a 1.5TB Raid5 partition with external drives, however after some research and some posting on this site I found out I would of needed a good raid controller card.. I believe CyberDruid was the one that told me about it not 100% sure.

Raid 5 is very complex and will eat alot of CPU if you use a cheap raid controller card or onboard.
But all the RAID cards are x8 PCI-E? I don't see x8 slots on the mobo.
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But all the RAID cards are x8 PCI-E? I don't see x8 slots on the mobo.
Not sure on that, I stopped and just burned my stuff onto DVD-DLs.
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RAID5 does eat a lot of CPU cycles.. I am currently running a 4 drive RAID5 with the Highpoint 2300 controller. Since cheaper controllers do not have an XOR processor (which takes care of calculating Parity) the controller relies on the CPU. It's not terrible at all actually.... I get about 145MB/sec write, and about 150MB/sec read. I have been using this current controller for about 5 months, and have not had any problems with it. Very reliable, and provides solid redundancy. It also supports Hot-swap, it will autorebuild in the event of a drive failure.
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