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Hey all, working on first build since about 2000.

So far, I purchased my motherboard (BioStar TA770 only $60 at the egg!) and CPU (X2 4200+ Brisbane). Since purchase, I've been thinking that maybe I skimped a little on the CPU. 2.2 gigs for roughly $60 seemed like an awesome deal at the time. Maybe I'm feeling buyers remorse?

Long story short, how fast can I push this on stock cooling? I'm hoping I can get it to the 2.6 - 2.8 range.

And now that I think of it, if I get a Radeon 3870 or GeForce 8800 (haven't decided which one yet.) will the CPU be a big bottleneck?

Im open to advice, from getting a new CPU to getting a new heatsink/fan combo.

Thanks!
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Yes your CPU+Mobo will be a huge bottle-neck for those kind of high-end cards.

Its unfortunate you already bought the equipment, I would've suggested an Intel 21xx series + a good P35 mobo and a 8800GT
    
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Yes your CPU+Mobo will be a huge bottle-neck for those kind of high-end cards.

Its unfortunate you already bought the equipment, I would've suggested an Intel 21xx series + a good P35 mobo and a 8800GT
Really? I have a friend with a 3870 and an X2 4400+... plays every game out there except Crysis with playable frame rates at maxed out settings.

It will bottleneck for benchmarks (3DMark06), but not for regular game usage. Plus, the AMD situation is actually quite price/performance friendly right now.

And look at my sig - I'm running an Intel C2D!
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Yes your CPU+Mobo will be a huge bottle-neck for those kind of high-end cards.

Its unfortunate you already bought the equipment, I would've suggested an Intel 21xx series + a good P35 mobo and a 8800GT
Lol no it wont, don't just scream AMD hate.


That X2 should hit about 2.8Ghz on stock cooling and 3Ghz if you go with after market cooling.

I went from a X2 BE-2350 @ 3Ghz to my e2160 @ 3.1Ghz and I see NO noticeable speed improvement.
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Yes, you sacrified some performance. So what?

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Long story short, how fast can I push this on stock cooling? I'm hoping I can get it to the 2.6 - 2.8 range.
That's likely.

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And now that I think of it, if I get a Radeon 3870 or GeForce 8800 (haven't decided which one yet.) will the CPU be a big bottleneck?
Actually, you are more likely to be GPU limted at reasonable settings, even with an 8800GTS 512 or 8800GTX/Ultra, with modern games (except, maybe, supcom).

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Im open to advice, from getting a new CPU to getting a new heatsink/fan combo.
Shut up, stop worrying, and enjoy your system and the spare change in your pocket.

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AMD chips are still good, and they're cheap.

Of course they're not quite as good as C2D chips, but at least for me, the price makes up for it all.
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Your Brisbane will work fine, don't sweat it. Should oc to 2.6 with stock cooling, 2.8 plus with a decent air cooler.
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Kinda weird seein' an Intel fan-boy in an AMD forum...

But thanks for the quick replies. If I can hit the 2.6 - 2.8 range I'll be more than happy. Plus, the way I see it, my mobo gives me nice expandability for the future.
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i think amd is good for a budget system, but right now, they just dont have what it takes to contend with intel on the higher end. amd is also notorious for difficulty of overclocking.

if you want to get the most out of your computer, ie. overclocking, gaming, etc., i would have to go with intel. if your build is for surfing the net, amd should be your choice.

When overclocking an intel chip, you run into heat problems before you hit fsb walls and stuff. when tryin to oc an amd chip, youll hit the barriers and holes before you would need a better cooler.
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post #10 of 25
I'm not sure about the motherboard, but that AMD is a nice chip, especially with some overclocking. Then get yourself a nice video card and a new CPU fan.
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