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Whats up with all of INTEL owners answering AMD questions? lol

You have the starting of a Good pc. I wound recommend that you RMA or sell your current setup and spend more on your cpu and mother board if you want a gaming pc
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post #22 of 25
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I havn't picked out RAM yet.. thinking I'm going to go with Patriot brand. 2 gigs, possibly 4. From what ive been reading tho, 4 gigs is a bit over kill still. Also need to pick out a case. Any suggestions for a reasonably priced case w/ PSU?

Speaking of RAM, how exactly does memory OC'ing work? Is it neccessary for CPU overclocking?
The PSU's that come with cases are usually complete junk. Many fail within the first year, and they can take your other parts with them. I'd recommend buying them separately.

If you're ready to buy now, I'd get the Antec earthwatts 500W for $65 and free shipping. Or, if you don't mind mail-in rebates, the Corsair 550VX is even better and is $65 after a $20 mail-in rebate. It also has free shipping and if this is your first time using buy.com and google checkout (note, you MUST use google checkout) then you get an additional $10 off.

For the case, it comes down to personal preference. On the high end, you can get the Cooler Master RC-690 for $80. If you're on a budget, I'd recommend the Cooler Master Centurion 534 for $50. Both cases have nice airflow for good prices and are attractive.

For your RAM, you really can't go wrong with any 2x1GB DDR2 800 memory that has 4-4-4-12 timings and is affordable. Try Crucial Ballistix, G.Skill, Patriot Extreme, or anything by Team. Here's my pick at the moment: 2x1GB Team DDR2 667 3-3-3-8 Micron D9GMH for only $43. That stuff will run FAST at DDR2 667 and 3-3-3-8 timings, and will overclock to very high speeds if you loosen the timings.

As for memory overclocking, the memory references the CPU when calculating it's speed. Memory speed = (CPU speed)/divider. So as you overclock the CPU, the memory speed will go up. However, you can increase the divider by changing the memory setting from DDR2 800 to DDR2 667, or from DDR2 667 to DDR2 533. Increasing the divider will lower the memory's speed, compensating for any increase that resulted from overclocking the CPU and restoring it to near-stock speeds. I wrote up an explanation a few months ago, you can read it here.
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post #23 of 25
Hi jdilla,

I have a similar system to yours.

I haven't put it through a gauntlet of games so far, but my CPU utilisation while running Doom3 on ULTRA texture settings @ 1280 x 1024 with x4 Anti-alising. CPU utilization averages around 75%. Never hits 100% not even for a moment. So there is deffinately some room left there. That's just one example but I wouldn't say the CPU will be a significant bottleneck for you at the moment.

With regards to overclocking. I've got mine running at 2.75GHz, however am having issues pushing the FSB above 250MHz, so thats the highest I can reach atm. Hopefully your CPU will be fine and won't experience the conudrum I have been.....

(to see what I'm talking about, go here: http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/30...conundrum.html)
Meh, good enough
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i've got my 4000+ x2 at 2.81ghz on stock cooling.. doesn't go over 51c.. warm a little... but stock volts! good processor to consider... my first dual core
post #25 of 25
heh mine is around 52c load at 3.5ghz so no big worry there.

But yeah throw a good video card (For the love of god get a PSU first!) and it'll tear through most anything.
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