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Yeah I would never mix metals like copper and aluminum, it will cause galvanic corrosion sooner then later...Some guys do and use an anti-corrosive like pentosin in it to slow it down..Pentosin...I just couldn't ever suggest anyone else use it much less me use it...Theres no need, if it was some kind of super cooling metal that would really drop my temp's I might try it with a cheap block, but its not, it wont perform as well as copper and brass, its just cheaper and easier to make it out of aluminum...Galvanic corrosion..

You can always brake a shroud out of coil-stock, you can get it in all kinds of sizes and lengths at almost any hard-ware store pretty cheap, like a couple of bux,its used for roof flashing or heating and AC duct work, its galvanized so you have to sand that off to paint it, its a real thin layer and comes off easy...Or you can buy thin aluminum to make one out of to, costs more though...

I just bend mine between two old 2' rafter squares, just c-clamp it between them, works great.....Check out d3's work here..How To: Build A Performance Shroud..Very nice...

You can get aluminum sheet here pretty cheap if you cant find it locally if you would rather use it....Online Metal Store
What about Primochill Non-Conductive Coolant? It says it prevents galvanic corrosion?

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Specially formulated with excellent lubrication properties to increase pump life.

Special corrosive inhibiting ingredients to prevent sludge build up and galvanic corrosion.

Safe on all plastics, rubbers, and miscellaneous gasket materials.

Environmentally responsible food safe non toxic biodegradable product—good for you, good for your PC, and good for the planet.

Formulated for high flow pumps and is not prone to mechanical sheering.

Ships with the dye separate so customers can get the exact tint they want.

3 year shelf life.

*Non-Conductive.

Freeze point below -60F.
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I've never used it or run mixed metal loops so I really have no idea, other then you will get corrosion sooner or later if you have copper blocks, if you don't mind that go for it...Maybe get one of their aluminum blocks to go with it or something, if its all aluminum theres nothing to worry about...I'd hate to see you spend your $$$ on something like that though...
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I have no idea where or why this Koolance bashing comes from but I will throw in my 2 cents as well...

I ran Koolance Exos external system with Koolance gold-plated copper cpu block almost 6-7 years without a single problem. I replaced teh coolant few times... and that was the same one I use for my car: Caltex Antifreeze Premix. Nothing else. It saw me through few computers.

I decided it is end of life my system, I didnt want to wait for them to break, so I retired my Exos. I still use it sometimes and there does not seem to be any degredation in my waterblock (it is see through).

So where is this galvanic corrossion or whatever you are talking about? I would reckon a company who started watercooling evolution (there was only Koolance and Danger Den back then... and Aqua Computers in a German website) knows what they are doing. I have hard time understanding why everyone bashes Koolance... Is it because you spend a month of your life trying to set up your watercooling rig while it took me 30 mins?

Now on the other hand, I am having problems with my Zalman Reserator XT system... My pump was clogged in 4 months and flow stopped. My system ran with Q6600 at 78 degrees for about 10 hours! Boy did I miss my koolance logic board shutting my system down in case of a trouble with watercooling.
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A month? You've got to be kidding, it never ends......I'll give Koolance its due, it ranks right up there with Thermal-Take and Gigabyte WC'ing
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It is only problematic when you start mixing aluminum with copper in your loop. Time and time again people fail to realize just how damaging this can be. If you run straight Koolance blocks and no copper in your loop you won't have any problems. While it may not be the best performing block on the block, Koolance mixed with other Koolance products will not have corrosion. Koolance mixed with a higher performing block will eventually corrode.
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Yeah, even Koolance will tell you this; if you're going to use Koolance, then stick with Koolance. And they're not saying that just to keep you buying Koolance. They know what they're talking about. They design their systems around the fact that they use an aluminum radiator. They gold plate their copper blocks to prevent corrosion from forming (why they didn't use silver I don't know, for thermal reasons). So unless you find someone who'll plate let's say a Fuzion for you, you don't want to mix it with a Koolance radiator.
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Koolance is actually using brass for a lot of new parts that come out now instead of aluminum.
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Koolance is actually using brass for a lot of new parts that come out now instead of aluminum.

Yes - but mainly fittings......

The day they change their heat exchangers from Aluminum to Copper.....
then you'll see the Jaws drop. After their long battle for Copper vs Aluminum Radiator Battle....

True though - Koolance with Koolance no probs. But the strike against it is "Cost of Cooling"

I would never bash them, why? becuase of marketing it draws attention to Liquid Cooling, and then people start researching and looking for reviews and then learn they can DIY a system. - What I see a majority of people doing is not simply Liquid Cooling their system, and then walking away from the forums. But Cooling their system and trying to assist others and scouring various forums for the Next Big Thing - so they can improve their system.
So if you want to simply Liquid Cool your PC and then move on - Koolance is a viable option - however if you are a tinkerer, modder, you'll never be happy and always - pulling things in and out of your system and loop.

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Yes - but mainly fittings......

The day they change their heat exchangers from Aluminum to Copper.....
then you'll see the Jaws drop. After their long battle for Copper vs Aluminum Radiator Battle....

True though - Koolance with Koolance no probs. But the strike against it is "Cost of Cooling"

I would never bash them, why? becuase of marketing it draws attention to Liquid Cooling, and then people start researching and looking for reviews and then learn they can DIY a system. - What I see a majority of people doing is not simply Liquid Cooling their system, and then walking away from the forums. But Cooling their system and trying to assist others and scouring various forums for the Next Big Thing - so they can improve their system.
So if you want to simply Liquid Cool your PC and then move on - Koolance is a viable option - however if you are a tinkerer, modder, you'll never be happy and always - pulling things in and out of your system and loop.

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im talking about waterblocks. i suggest you take a look at their new items.
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A month? You've got to be kidding, it never ends......
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I'll give Koolance its due, it ranks right up there with Thermal-Take and Gigabyte WC'ing
Come on ira, dont you think you are being unfair? They might not perform better than 1% of DIY watercooling gear out there but i am sure they do perform better than the other 99% of DIY stuff. You also have the guarantee that your pump will not fail since they use seperate pumps for intake and out and they do have a logic board that shuts the system down in case of cooling problems.

I get 40% overclock on my Q6600 with a passive watercooling system with no fans. How much more do you think a person needs? You must realize except very few, system stability is a very important requirement in computers.
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