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IF YOU HAVE A COPY OF XP THIS DOES NOT CONCERN YOU

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This is all fine and well for a consumer environment, but trying to convince businesses to outlay massive funding for the hardware increases needed just to run their stuff on Vista without having it do anything new from what XP did is a real catch. Heck alot of businesses still run 2000 or NT. Vista costs companies MILLIONS of dollars to convert their IT infrastructure and all they have gotten for it so far has been headaches and hassles. Will that change? Sure, but until there is far more business turnover to Vista you won't see the death of XP.
    
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I wasn't talking about driving them. I was saying, if you are selling an older product, that is taking away from your newer product, is that economical? no, so what do you do? you stop making the older product. sure you make replacement parts.
Actually, if they can get people to keep buying XP because "they like it," that'll end up making m$ more money. They have to purchase XP, and then later on they're going to have to upgrade (give more money to m$) to vista anyway.

I see no harm in continuing sales for XP, especially for m$. In the long run, it'll get m$ more money.
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XP sales should cease, and XP to Vista Upgrades will increase.
It makes sense
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This is all fine and well for a consumer environment, but trying to convince businesses to outlay massive funding for the hardware increases needed just to run their stuff on Vista without having it do anything new from what XP did is a real catch. Heck alot of businesses still run 2000 or NT. Vista costs companies MILLIONS of dollars to convert their IT infrastructure and all they have gotten for it so far has been headaches and hassles. Will that change? Sure, but until there is far more business turnover to Vista you won't see the death of XP.
If companies can get by on Windows NT, and 2000 (which are dead), they can survive on the death of XP as well. At my office we have 3 PCs left running Windows 2000, though they are the 3 oldest and slowest machines.
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Because I want as little useless garbage on my system as possible, even if I never see it or feel it in day to day use.

I have a vision of perfect OS, and every single "feature" that I do not require to run my handful of favored applications is an abomination to me.



To this day, I see ZERO performance difference between windows XP and Windows 2000.

They both use identical drivers and have near identical kernels. Fully patched, 2000 should not be any slower, what so ever, when it comes to games.
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A large number of manufacturing plants have equipment made inoperable by Vista and it's damn driver issues.
    
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A large number of manufacturing plants have equipment made inoperable by Vista and it's damn driver issues.
Let's get some examples.

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Mine for starters.

Our partner company for seconds. The list grows, my Mom's company spent half a million dollars to deal with the impact of Vista just from a VPN standpoint. That didn't include any internal computers changing OS.

Fact of the matter is, Windows as a business OS is crap. And for the businesses that have been relying heavily on 2000 and XP, Vista has cause a veritable nightmare.
    
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Mine for starters.

Our partner company for seconds. The list grows, my Mom's company spent half a million dollars to deal with the impact of Vista just from a VPN standpoint. That didn't include any internal computers changing OS.

Fact of the matter is, Windows as a business OS is crap. And for the businesses that have been relying heavily on 2000 and XP, Vista has cause a veritable nightmare.
Good, that's what they get for trying to adopt a fledgling OS in a business environment. We just finished our upgrade to XP last year.

Additionally, we just purchased a brand-spanking-new, 2008 model year, CNC Laser welding machine for me to play with at work... runs Win2k. Obviously XP wasn't good enough.
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