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Difference between 5ms and 2/3ms?

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Ok guys im looking at getting a new monitor which im going to use for my xbox 360 and my pc. Will i experence ghosting if i buy a monitor w/5ms?
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I would say no, but I am sure many here will say yes, whether it matters or not
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post #3 of 16
5ms will definitely suit your gaming needs
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Completely depends on brands. Most brands I've heard of lists their response time as gray to gray (gtg or g2g), which honestly doesn't tell much. If you are able to get the color cycle response time (red to green to blue or something like that), that'll help alot more. You can as a thumb rule expect 1-8 times higher colour response than grey response.
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not really, there are other factors that affect the picture more. take a look at this guide, it was posted a little while ago.

If 2ms was uniform across colors and brightness, and was synced to refresh rate it would be 500 Hz, 5ms would be 200 Hz. Since most LCD's refresh at 60Hz, this is a bit overkill, with the above conditions you would only need 16.7ms.

Of course that is only grey to grey, colors and blacks are a bigger deal - and of great importance is the monitors input response - which can vary from ~0ms (compared with CRT's which are considered ~instant), to 50ms plus. To get a better idea of the total ()picture check the side by side comparison site mentioned in the provided link. One of the best looking, fastest refreshing monitors they test is the samsung 226BW.
    
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No, not unless you're looking VERY closely.

The difference between 2 and 5 is actually very little, they both use the same panel. The 2ms actually uses a cheat to achieve such high timings, they overvolt the panel during movement to make it seem faster (the colors actually distort during movement on 2ms panels due to the overvolting if you look closely)

So final answer, the 5ms is more than fine, I play UT2k4 (very fast game) on a 5ms just fine.
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post #7 of 16
Yeah, ghosting was only a real issue with older LCDs in the >10ms range.
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my 5ms panel is great for games. i play alot of FPS and i wouldnt change it for 2ms (unless it was a bigger screen )
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Anything below 8ms made by a decent company will be fine.
    
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So final answer, the 5ms is more than fine, I play UT2k4 (very fast game) on a 5ms just fine.
Agreed. I also play Quake (in all its incarnations) on a 8ms display which is aguably the fastest first person shooter out there, although UT comes avery close second.

But to answer the OP's question, when you get down to this level responce you are not going to be able to tell the difference.

Be wary of specification comparing. As mentioned earlier differing manufacturers quote their figures differently.

Its a bit like saying whats the difference between 10 megapixel and 12 megapixel picture. Technically the 12mp is larger but when compared who in "real world" environment is going to spot the difference. What you need to take into account is other factors.

These should be; contrast ratio, brightness, dead pixel policy, and build.
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