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its just the fact that they seem to work together better; a better compatibility with the two. Its up to you though.
This is unfortunately untrue.

Nvidia should be your option ONLY if you plan on getting dual/triple nvidia graphics cards. They are notorious for having FSB holes i.e. you can overclock to 1333FSB or 1600FSB but you will get BSOD (crash) anywhere in between. Although the 780i was supposed to be better about this issue, many users are still experiencing this incredibly frustrating bug. 790 Ultra looks like it might OC to the moon but I don't know if that is with or without a FSB strap.

If at all posible you want to stick with an Intel chipset. X38 or X48 are my recommendations. If I had to buy a new board tomorrow I would go with either the Abit X38 QuadGT (oh my uGuru!), DFI LP X38, or Gigabyte X38-DQ6 in no particular order. From what I have read, they ship with a good bios and and are stable to 475+ FSB.
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For your system you could just get a P35 board. Don't get any ASUS "Extreme" board as those require DDR3 memory. X38 is more about Crossfiring ATI cards than real performance gains. Not saying there aren't any, just that they aren't too significant.

I suggest the DFI Bloodiron, Gigabyte DS3L, and ABIT IP35-E, in descending order of cost.
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post #13 of 22
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I really don't see any nvidia boards out there in the same price range with feature set that also support the new q9450. Am I missing something?
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its just the fact that they seem to work together better; a better compatibility with the two. Its up to you though.
No they dont work together better IMO. I have run a handful of NVIDIA 680i boards and a handful of P35 and X38 boards. And from my experience, the only reason to go NVIDIA over Intel is if you are going to run SLI.

But with that being said, I would also recommend going with the P35 motherboard if you are only planning to run a single card solution.

Here are the differences between the P35 and X38 chipset:

Source: X-bit labs



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The newer chipset acquired XMP (Extended Memory Profiles) technology support. It is somewhat similar to Nvidia EPP (Enhanced Performance Profiles) Intel introduced for DDR3 SDRAM. In fact, it implies SPP extensions with information needed to use these memory modules for overclocking needs. Corresponding profiles added to the SPD bear the info on frequency, voltage and timings settings.

These are about the only differences between X38 and P35. However everything we have just mentioned turned out more than enough to require significant changes in the North Bridge of the new core logic. Of course, it affected the heat dissipation in the first place. The Intel X38 North Bridge features 36.5W typical heat dissipation, while the same characteristic for Intel P35 equals only 16W. Although the new chipset is manufactured using pretty up-to-date 65nm production process, the high TDP forced Intel to equip the chip with the same type of a heat-spreader lid that we have only seen on CPUs and server chipsets before.

Intel X38 chipset costs $50, which is about $20 more than the price of Intel P35.
But if you want an X38 board, I would recommend the P5E or the Maximus Formula (both can be flashed to the Rampage Formula X48 bios). I have my PP5E running 515 FSB with 1.43v to the northbridge:

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post #15 of 22
The ex38-ds4 is a good choice with one nvidia card but recommed getting 2x2 pc2-8000 ram mine runs fine.
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post #16 of 22
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ericeod,

Thanks for the detailed post. The only thing I would point out in your post is the FSB of the x38 @1333. These actually go to 1600 vs the 1333 on the p35 boards. When I take into account the 8x of the q9450, a mb with a higher fsb will be better. Since the price of the x38's vs. the p35 is about the same, I just figured I would save myself some troubles and get the newer of the two.

I had read several reviews and had not noticed the higher wattage use of the x38's.

phillipjos....
You are most likely right about the memory. I bought the 6400 back in Nov with heavy rebates and cheap pricing, but may need to sell it for some faster stuff. And 2x2 would be the way to go. I figured I would start with 2x1 at 6400, see what I get, then add the second 2gb and test again...

From what I have read, the fsb is going to be the bottleneck for this setup and it seems that the x38's will reach a higher #.
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a gigabyte or dfi x38
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P5E FTW w/ Rampage Bios
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post #19 of 22
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Strikers are terrible at OCing quads.

If you are getting a SLi board stick to reference boards (XFX or eVGA)
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I recommend the GA-EX38-DQ6 or DS4...for obvious reasons.
    
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