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ATI is not left in the dust. The HD 3870 X2 pwns all even the ultra compared to price and performance.
That it does, that it does

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As I've said before, if AMD/ATI bites it then we're all going to suffer because there goes Intel and nVidia's competition.
Exactly, and we don't want that to happen. It'd be just as bad as Microsoft owning practically the whole world. OOH *cringes* Microsoft, Intel, and nVidia running everything???? The thought pains me.

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The 4000 series is sufficiently ahead of NVidia technologically that it should compensate for driver issues. The 10 series might beat it, but the 9800GX2 sure as hell won't.
I agree, from everything I've read about the R700/4000 series, AMD/ATI will do well by it - provided they release it before nVidia's 10 series, i.e. SOON!!

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That would really be to bad if AMD/ATI failed, I think they can realistically take a year or 2 more of fail before they just can't recuperate. They are just Pretending to lose money, and holding out till the last second to release the holy grail of cpu/videocards so they can make a dramatic comeback and secure their rightful place among the computing parts gods. That's the conspiracy I would like to believe anyway.
AMD and ATI both have always been able to come out with strong products just in the nick of time. Look at the 3850/3870/3870 X2 - strong products that came out just in time. All they need now is to release a decent high-end proc (above 3GHz) quad core lineup to compete with Intel's Quads and they'll be back in business with uber-PC people.

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The 3870 is definitly a sweet card as long as you don't intend to pound on it with AA but comparing it to the 9600GT is like comparing apples and oranges. The 9600GT is nVidia's "entry level" model for that generation and the 3870 is ATI's flagship when it comes to single GPU cards.

Either way I'd be happy with either card at this point. I like my GTS but cripes, it's under powered.
I have to admit, I'm not up to snuff on nVidia's current offerings. Looks like I got the card name wrong. The card I meant was nVidia's direct competition to the 3870, 9800GT possibly?
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If the 4 series are as good GPUs as their released specs suggest...nVidia will be left behind if they do not release something better than the 9800GX2 by the time the 4870x2's are out.
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If you look at the 9 series benchmark, the 9800GTX gets 19k+ 3DMARKs on a single card, but that was with a 4.5GHz QX9650.
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If you look at the 9 series benchmark, the 9800GTX gets 19k+ 3DMARKs on a single card, but that was with a 4.5GHz QX9650.
I can't stand benches with 3dmark and an insanely OCed CPU. It totally skews the test.
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I know, not many people get CPU's like that
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I have to admit, I'm not up to snuff on nVidia's current offerings. Looks like I got the card name wrong. The card I meant was nVidia's direct competition to the 3870, 9800GT possibly?
The 3850 should be the direct competitor for the 9600GT although I wouldn't really call it that since the 9600GT seems to win out on just about all tests.

Again, I'd take either card at this point.
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The 3850 should be the direct competitor for the 9600GT although I wouldn't really call it that since the 9600GT seems to win out on just about all tests.

Again, I'd take either card at this point.
Isn't the 3850 comperable to the 8600? I would assume the nre 4 series mid-range card will be against the 9600.
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The 3850 should be the direct competitor for the 9600GT although I wouldn't really call it that since the 9600GT seems to win out on just about all tests.

Again, I'd take either card at this point.
I think the 9600GT prices are closer to the 3870 since the recent ati price drop...so, it's more like 3870 vs 9600.
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Isn't the 3850 comperable to the 8600? I would assume the nre 4 series mid-range card will be against the 9600.
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I think the 9600GT prices are closer to the 3870 since the recent ati price drop...so, it's more like 3870 vs 9600.
I'm going mostly based on both manufacturer's current line up based on performance.

With nVidia's current line up the 9600GT is closes to the 3850 in terms of performance and price than the 3870. That's my take on it however.

I really haven't been too interested in checking out the 3870 simply because more and more 8800GTS' with the G92 core are going on sale for under $250 after MIR. That's the front runner for my money.
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Isn't the 3850 comperable to the 8600? I would assume the nre 4 series mid-range card will be against the 9600.
The 3850 kills the 8600GT/GTS

3850 is more closer to 8800GS

The 8600's competitors are the 2600PRO/XT and the 3650
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