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post #11 of 19
Hmm, memory problems are more likely to result in BSOD than a random restart. I had similar problems with my AMD rig (RIP) about 4 months ago. Random restarts that ultimately resulted in the computer not positing. I replaced the motherboard and it worked fine for 3 more months, then it died again, this time with dead memory as well. Convinced my PSU was responsible for killing my first motherboard and now my RAM (and possibly a second motherboard, can't test it until this weekend) I threw out the PSU and dead RAM. And guess what my PSU was... an Antec Truepower Trio. I wouldn't trust yours, they're vicious killers! lol. Honestly it was probably just a fluke but do be careful, it sounds like you're having PSU issues and when the PSU goes, it can take parts with it. It's possible your hardware is already damaged from the first failure.

The good news is a new core system (PSU, mobo, CPU, RAM) only costs about $225 after MIR. Toss in a new 9600GT for another $140 or 8800GT for $165 if you want (after MIR of course).
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ANTEC's Truepower units are known killers. The Earthwatts line is respected, Truepower is not. ANTEC doesn't build their own, Seasonic builds the Earthwatts and the Truepower are designed by janitorial assistants and assembled by thirty four underfed lemurs in Madagascar.

My advice is just to buy Durch's system. That's a wonderful budget rig.

If you want to try to nurse yours a bit the RAM issue on 939's whould help, and you could try running only 2 sticks if you have further issues.
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post #13 of 19
If you've been running the 3800+ for that long at 2.5, wouldn't be surprised if it's starting to die. I'd suggest an E2x00 setup with a P35-DS3L and an 8800GT.
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Originally Posted by Schroedinger View Post
ANTEC's Truepower units are known killers. The Earthwatts line is respected, Truepower is not. ANTEC doesn't build their own, Seasonic builds the Earthwatts and the Truepower are designed by janitorial assistants and assembled by thirty four underfed lemurs in Madagascar.
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post #15 of 19
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"If you've been running the 3800+ for that long at 2.5, wouldn't be surprised if it's starting to die. I'd suggest an E2x00 setup with a P35-DS3L and an 8800GT."

Yeah, I always figured my time with it would be limited, but planned on upgrading anyway after like 3 years. Originally got a stable at 2.8, but was concerned it'd burn out too fast.

That pisses me off about the truepower. A guy at microcenter told me it was uber. But it probably can't be worse than the 500w psu that came stock with the aspire x-navigator case. Have any of you guys used or heard of the ABS Tagan BZ (newegg link)?

Also, is Durch's system the intel build listed in his sig? Never oc'd an intel before.
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post #16 of 19
Have you checked the capacitors on the board to see if any of them are swollen? Or any burnt mosfets?
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post #17 of 19
Have you tried to test your computer in Eve with only two stick of RAM, and after with the other two?
Have you the possibility to test with another graphic card? Parts swapping is still one of the best troubleshooting tool

I had a similar instability problem before, the culprit was the graphic card. If your system only crash when doing intensive tasks, it's generally either the PSU, the CPU or the graphic card. The PSU because the computer draws a lot more power when gaming.

Have you tried to do some CPU intensive task that is not graphic intensive, like compressing to RAR 2 or 3 very big folder at the same time?
If the computer doesn't crash then you know it's probably coming for the graphic card, or from the PSU don't being able to deliver.
As your PSU is recent I would bet on the graphic card.

If a task that is not graphic intensive crash, then it's either the CPU or the PSU. CPU are generally more resilient but as you OCed it, it's hard to say
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post #18 of 19
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That's good advice, and I'll definitely keep it in mind.

So far, though, it seems like the only problem was that I was running 4 sticks at 186mhz instead of 166mhz. It hasn't crashed since I changed the settings, so it looks like I'll get at least a few more months out of it before other parts start to break down. Thanks for your help.
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post #19 of 19
Another thing I JUST NOW noticed about your rig is that you're trying to overclock a Manchester. That is another one of the problems that you're seeing. Manchesters will reach 2.5-2.6GHz stable. 2.7GHz IF YOU'RE LUCKY with super high volts. That right there is your problem . Get a good Toledo X2 or a good stepping Opteron 165/170 and you'll be set to reach 3.0GHz with that rig. Don't forget about the RAM thing I told you earlier though. And I'd recommend you stick with the 4 sticks since 2GB is better than 1GB these days. My fiance's running an Opteron 170 at 2.8GHz with 4 sticks of 512, and her rig is just as fast as my rig at 2.8.

EDIT: All in all your rig appears to be a top notch 939 rig. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a good 939 rig these days still (check my sig for the 939 appreciation club). You don't need hundreds of dollars to fix it. You just need a better stepping x2 or Opteron, and maybe a better video card if you game a LOT.
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