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Wait... Im under the assumption this is NOT as powerful as a 3870X2.

Am I wrong? I think of this as a midrange card. Not high end.
Uhm it got a SM2.0 score of 9800 and SM3.0 score of 12k. 12k just on SM3.0, and I can just barely break 13k on my TOTAL score. It is definitely faster than any other video card right now, but I doubt these will be in mass production ever. It remains to be seen if these cards can run actual video games very well.
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Yeah but some people only have a single PCIe x16 slot, like me. Also if you are going to go that route, why not just two 3870X2s?



No, actually ATI has more raw power in GFlops. Unfortunately the architecture of the R600 (and in turn the RV670 which is a refresh of the R600) is such that it is extremley difficult to make drivers that keep the card working at peak efficiency.
One of the things I have pointed out repeatedly is the fact that though ATI Radeon cards boast insane numbers (GDDR4, a mess of stream processors, etc), the numbers mean nothing if the card's architecture is premature. If ATI would just freaking relax and focus on some more efficient architecture, maybe they could have a better chance of beating nVidia's flagships.

Keep in mind, not everyone can or will bother with putting together an SLI or Crossfire setup, so the main point is strong single cards, of which nVidia has been doing extremely well. ATI has better scaling, but seriously, the problems with crossfire or SLI, in my opinion, make it obvious that a multiple card solution isn't always the best, or cost-effective. A stronger PSU with the correct amount of cables, a crossfire or SLi motherboard, space requirements, and the rather unstable drivers associated with both Crossfire and SLI. Then there's the cost. You pay 2x as much for a 20% increase with SLI and a 50% increase with Crossfire, IF the video game is optimized for such.

Having a very strong single video card produced is important, and even though ATI's numbers would show that their video cards are superior, the architecture isn't as refined as nVidia's is, so nVidia can actually use less and still gain more.
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WOW not bad at all. I would like to see how this card holds up to a real game. As we all know that 3870x2 beats the 9800GX2 in 3DMark 06 but the 9800GX2 wins in most real world games.
I have a feeling its beats the 3870X2 by a good margin,.
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One of the things I have pointed out repeatedly is the fact that though ATI Radeon cards boast insane numbers (GDDR4, a mess of stream processors, etc), the numbers mean nothing if the card's architecture is premature. If ATI would just freaking relax and focus on some more efficient architecture, maybe they could have a better chance of beating nVidia's flagships.

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Having a very strong single video card produced is important, and even though ATI's numbers would show that their video cards are superior, the architecture isn't as refined as nVidia's is, so nVidia can actually use less and still gain more.
Well it's not so much of architecture, it's software and drivers.
#1. Companies are paid by nVidia to optimize their cards for the games.
#2. ATI's drivers (i hate to say) are pieces of s***. Such an example is the 8.3's; even the old 8.2 drivers did better.
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I hope you're joking...

Whoever made that image forgot to add "+ No Life" into the first part of the equation.
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Whoever made that image forgot to add "+ No Life" into the first part of the equation.
LOL says the guy with over 5K posts.
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LOL says the guy with over 5K posts.
Haha
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LOL says the guy with over 5K posts.
You'd have a point if you knew how to do math. I've been here 2 years longer than you. That means I've been on these forums for well over 800 days. 5500/800 yields an average of just under 7 posts per day. That can easily be done in less than 20 minutes. (This is conveniently also one of the few sites that isn't blocked at work.)

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Haha
I'd expect more from you. See above.
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Whoever made that image forgot to add "+ No Life" into the first part of the equation.
Awesome how he gets paid to do that. And gets the equipment for free.
    
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Awesome how he gets paid to do that. And gets the equipment for free.
If that is his entire job (he has no day job) then that just means he's even worse in my eyes for contributing nothing to society.

As much as I may like overclocking, I can say with 100% certainty that I could not do something so meaningless with my life, even if I got everything for free and were paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do it. Not only would I be bored, but I would know what I was doing served no true purpose.
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