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For that device to show ALL my movies I have on discs, well, it would need to be much more than a terabyte..... not happening anytime soon I think (to make it mass produced anyways). Thats why I believe it needs a display, it would make it more convinient to check on the go, I wouldnt want to wait in line just to check if I had a particular movie or not, I would rather spend that time deciding which movie to get next (imo).
Well, usually when I go to shop for movies, I already know ahead of time what I'm looking for. But given the surge for higher bandwidth internet, I think going to the store for a digital download is silly, just get it from home. More convenient, and you can check right then and there if you have the movie or not. As far as terabyte drives, there will be 500gb 2.5'' drives available before the summer, so, it's not that far off to fit a terabyte in your pocket.
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BR has already won. It may be a shorter victory than DVD was, but the fact is that BR is available right this minute, whereas I haven't heard of anyone releasing flash based movies/players yet.

There was a time when Lucas had enough power to sway the industry, but he has squandered a large portion of that power. Sony alone has enough money/power to make sure BR is at least a temporary success, even without all the other members of the BR coalition. I'm not saying this as a BR fanboy either. The only thing holding BR back right now is the cost of both the player and the HDTV to run it on. Once the prices reach a comfortable level, market penetration will skyrocket.
 
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Well, usually when I go to shop for movies, I already know ahead of time what I'm looking for. But given the surge for higher bandwidth internet, I think going to the store for a digital download is silly, just get it from home. More convenient, and you can check right then and there if you have the movie or not. As far as terabyte drives, there will be 500gb 2.5'' drives available before the summer, so, it's not that far off to fit a terabyte in your pocket.
lol yeah good point. But people interaction is much more fun than sitting in a room and pressing download or whatever lol .

As for pocket size :

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In the future I want to be able to carry four to five movies around with me in a wallet, or walk into a store and have someone copy me a movie to a USB device. Stores will like that idea, because it’s all about having zero inventory. I don’t want to take up shelf space with dozens of HD movies.”
I was referring to the less then wallet sized thing. I dont wanna carry a harddrive in my pocket ! Too fragile .SSD , another thing.
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BR has already won. It may be a shorter victory than DVD was, but the fact is that BR is available right this minute, whereas I haven't heard of anyone releasing flash based movies/players yet.

There was a time when Lucas had enough power to sway the industry, but he has squandered a large portion of that power. Sony alone has enough money/power to make sure BR is at least a temporary success, even without all the other members of the BR coalition. I'm not saying this as a BR fanboy either. The only thing holding BR back right now is the cost of both the player and the HDTV to run it on. Once the prices reach a comfortable level, market penetration will skyrocket.
Ahhhh.... how do you figure that BR won? DVD still make up 99% of sales.

The question is... will BR move fast enough to gain market share before digital only media (flash drive, downloadable) gets a foothold.
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This will be interesting. However, the only way to get true high definition movies is on Blu-ray right now. Of course in the future movies on flash drives or downloadable movies will be the standard, but that's a long way off I'd say. I bet a minimum of 5 years before it has any sort of market share. Plus, bandwidth right now is way too scarce for everyone to be downloading HD movies. There is a lot of infrastructure that needs to be built for that to work on a mass market.

If you want HD movies, Blu-ray is the only reliable way to do it for at least the next 3 to 5 years. That's too long for me to wait to use HD movies, I already have a Blu-ray player and it does blow standard DVD's away.
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Though - he's the downside. Not all things use flash even though its popular. Hell, I still see laptops or desktops that don't have media/flash card readers equipped.

Not to mention, there are like 20 different types of cards and crap.
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BR has already won. It may be a shorter victory than DVD was, but the fact is that BR is available right this minute, whereas I haven't heard of anyone releasing flash based movies/players yet.

There was a time when Lucas had enough power to sway the industry, but he has squandered a large portion of that power. Sony alone has enough money/power to make sure BR is at least a temporary success, even without all the other members of the BR coalition. I'm not saying this as a BR fanboy either. The only thing holding BR back right now is the cost of both the player and the HDTV to run it on. Once the prices reach a comfortable level, market penetration will skyrocket.
I think you underestimate Lucas. He has more than enough on his plate as of now. Before there was really no driving force to keep him busy.

Also Sony is not the drving entity behind Blue Ray. Sony plays a smaller part then most people think. Yes its "Sony Blue Ray" but the companies behind BR dont have the market recognition that Sony has. So its Sony Blue Ray.
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I can see using flash drives as an HD format very possible. The DRM would be constantly
changing if you figure it. Method gets cracked? No problem. Re-engineer it. New &
better codec? NP. Update your player. (All players would have to have access to internet
though, major downfall).

What I'm talking about applies more towards the rental idea. Plus stores and rental
shops would probably have a little computer you plug the dongle into and download
your purchase right there. Updated DRM for old flicks and everything if it gets cracked,
so all following rentals and purchases have the new DRM.

(I hate DRM personally, but I'm just trying to give an example of how this would shut
up the MPAA about AACS, BD+ and such being cracked. Basically just create
a constantly changing DRM scheme that the general paying public has no clue
is really happening.)

It's also kind of obvious I'm ignoring the development costs that go into creating DRM.
So ignore that little glaze-over.
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Though - he's the downside. Not all things use flash even though its popular. Hell, I still see laptops or desktops that don't have media/flash card readers equipped.

Not to mention, there are like 20 different types of cards and crap.
He's talking about in the near future. In 2-3 years, all PCs will have at least USB2.0 and SATA. Flash standards have been weeding down to a few and USB is everywhere. How many types of 8GB+ flash devices connections can you find? 5-6? IDE, SATA, USB, SD, and maybe Memory Stick.
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There is still HUGE portions of the US populace that don't have access to high bandwidth connections, that is the barrier for download technology. The supporting network infrastructure for many parts of the US won't currently handle the type of surge in high bandwidth connections that many of you are talking about in order for download technology to be viable at the moment. The time may come and surely will I suppose, but it won't be anytime soon and it won't be cheap.

As for flash based media, that's all fine and well and there may be a market for that. But until costs come down, reliability goes up (flash drives aren't invincible, in fact SSD have pretty significant failure rates at the moment, not saying they won't improve but we are talking about right now), and someone starts developing stand-alone flash based players then these aren't market viable. Not to mention that it won't be a USB flash based drive, it will have to be based on something like 1394b in order to have enough sustained transfer rate for HD content. I don't know what kind of longevity you can expect with the sustained speeds and the inevitable heat generation that will occur.
    
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